Is that possible???

[tiger]

I would be happy if mods read this and answer, but other people opinion is welcomed also.   its a little longer, but please read.
I play one realm and i watched one player. It was day 4 in realm. I was arround 180 - 200 points and he came to my 2x so i rumored him but he had little villagers and not much resources so i guess he trained army and i didnt attack. He has only one prov with 6,6 k villagers.
Later i checked him again and he was on 320 point and got huge minus in prov. Rumors showed almost 6k so he was in minus almost 3k for sure. I guessed he attacked somebody. But he got all 0, no attacks or visible army till today.
And for that minus you must send 2 k swords somewhere for 5 h. But no army or atacks till now.
But 3 min later after he had minus he jumped to 341, and in few sec to 342 points.
How is that possible? Have minus without an army or loan. Even 6h resources with 6,6 k villagers wont bring him so much resources. Only possibility is that he took a loan at that moment. But loan is also small with his villagers.

Second is his points.
I took best farmer score at that point. 120 points, 3 prov. 14 k villagers
66 point for colonizing 2 prov. 66/3 = 22
54 + 22 =76 k gold spent. Even less because he surely have some uni and architecture.
If that farmer invested all in military it would be 76*3 =218 points. And farmer have 3 prov and 14 - 15 k villagers now.
That guy have 6,6 k villagers. He had maximum 9 k. We all start 5k villagers so average for him was 7 k villagers(he got less).
So his production in 4,5 days was.
4,5 days * 38(24 + 10 bonus + 4 voting) *70(7000/100 vilagers) * 5 gold per hour* 1,3(fort 3 bonus) = 77805 = 78 networth. If he puts all in army its 78 * 3 = 234 points. He didnt attack nobody so no extra resources. Adn this calculation is to big for surelly 10-20 procent.
HOW CAN HE BE ON 342 NETWORTH???
Matematicly and logicly impossible. I took 80 k gold from people, have a lot more villagers then him and i am just over 200 networth.
I am not accussing anybody so i am offering possible solutions.
1. Rumors gave me false info, but a million times i get good info from rumors.
2.Explanation of so high net is impossible so its maybe some kind of bug showing networth wrong?
3.I know army dissapeared to some players, false medals and a lot of other bugs.
4.No matter there isnt all players button i know how to see all players. Probably a lot of you also. I know how to make resources dissapear. So is it possible that some guy with a lot of knowledge about data bases found a way to get him free resources because mathematicly i cant explain his networth.
5. My math is wrong.

I am just curious, not accussing anybody. Wish to see what is all possible in IO.
PS. Contact me PM if you wish realm and nick.

[raito]

1. how can you know if he took loans or not?

2. how can you know if he uses credits and took 10h or 6h production every day?

[tiger]

1. how can you know if he took loans or not?

2. how can you know if he uses credits and took 10h or 6h production every day?

about loans. You cant go into minus if you dont have army. Only with loan. And then from somewhere you cover big minus, get 22 points and have resources. With 6 k villagers.
I assumed maximum so as i said he probably didnt get so much resources and he earned less that i calculated. But even with everything on maximum he cant have more then 240 net and he had 342.
I am more curious about networth then first part.

[raito]

with the 10h production every day, he can have the production of 17 days in only 12 days, that is about 3 production-days each 2 real-days

so 4,5 real-days may be 6 production days or slighty more.

[tiger]

with the 10h production every day, he can have the production of 17 days in only 12 days, that is about 3 production-days each 2 real-days

so 4,5 real-days may be 6 production days or slighty more.

But that is in formula. I took that days have 38 hours what is maximum a person can get in a day.
4,5 days(realm was that old) * 38(24 + 10 bonus + 4 voting a maximum that person can get) *70(7000/100 vilagers) * 5 gold per hour* 1,3(fort 3 bonus) = 77805 = 78 networth
So 38 * 4,5 = 171 / 24=7,125 days. Thats calculated in maximum 78 networth.

[raito]

i didn't saw the 38, sorry.

btw, he may have produced always the most convenient resource (more than 5 gold per hour) or got loans or had massed some resources and used all of them toghther.

[KoSaC]

i didn't saw the 38, sorry.

btw, he may have produced always the most convenient resource (more than 5 gold per hour) or got loans or had massed some resources and used all of them toghther.

guy name is familiar to us...damn xamlo...and he joined 2 days later....and in 3 days he managed to get  342points...how suspicious is that?

[k_mihai]

dunno, maybe he took a loan and ordered some troops

[KoSaC]

dunno, maybe he took a loan and ordered some troops

we'll see i am gonna spy the bastard and see what he has 

[tiger]

dunno, maybe he took a loan and ordered some troops

Well i didnt see that he joined 2 days later. So yesterday evening he played in total 2,5 days.
So new calculation is
2,5 days * 38(24 + 10 bonus + 4 voting) *70(7000/100 vilagers) * 5 gold per hour* 1,3(fort 3 bonus) = 43225 = 43 networth
So if he took loan he get 10 k gold with his 6 k villagers. 43 + 10 =53 networth and he put all in army so multiply by 3. 159 networth.
And he have 342.
Now i am sure it isnt possible. Or is some bug or guy knows how to add resources using some loophole in database. Simply isnt possible to get so high in 2,5 days.

[KoSaC]

i agree..i mean you are far better then rest of guys,and you have what,like 100 points less then him
damn hackers 

[raito]

realm?

[KoSaC]

realm 2 

[tiger]

i agree..i mean you are far better then rest of guys,and you have what,like 100 points less then him
damn hackers 

I i am sure that his net isnt possible. But i am not accussing him to be hacker. Thats just posibility. I would say its some bug in his acc. Maybe he really have 34,2 net but something went wrong. Because radoo had negative networth and that also wasnt possible, but bug.

[Radooo]

I guess this is weird...anyway tiger, if he ordered about 1500 soldiers, his villagers are less now and in 4 days you can take 5 times the resource bonuses, but even with that (cause you overestimated a bit) I don't know how he did that and how he had minus gold...maybe a fast click to double something like some dudes did with imperial reserve?