Production BUG

[spyderbvg]

Account: 773xsjv033
Realm: 19
I check out 2 times and i'm right AGAIN
Instead produce produce 25k gold per hour in province8 for example I produce 18k.
Please check IMMEDIATELY i don't belive it happens to me again. What the hell - i'm concluding that is not random, how the hell happened  just to me?? I asked colleagues to CHECK AND it seems that i'm ONLY one. HOW is this possible?

[tiger]

Username?
i checked your account named spyderbvg in r19 and it has 6 k people.
R19 similar
r95 have 178 k people in province 8, but you only have 40 k space in lumbermill, so you cant produce 25 k wood, only 6 k. Can you please specify username, realm and explain your problem with some details. You can do it in private message if you wish.

[spyderbvg]

SORRY i'm to angry and I forget:
realm: 19
account: 773xsjv033
alliance: BLOODSTORM

it is happened again:
according to game in my 8 province on 100000 worker on gold i should produce 5000 gold
  Production bonus: 80% from fortress >>> 5000*1.8= 9000
  Income (from alliance) 12% + 10% guild >>> 9000*1.22= 10.980
  TRONE HALL - statistic: productions is 9900 (WHY?) = i pay again the guild for nothink
 
  In reality in 1 hours i produce 7750 gold with 100k worker. Not even the basic bonus from fortress i don't see it.
I'm very very disapointed. It is second time it is happened this to me. First time 2 era ago in same realm the guild wasn't give me any bonus, now:
1. the guild payd for nothink
2. income for alliance: cut
3 let's cut some bonus from fortress as well, this players don't need it
    HOW IT IS POSSIBLE SUCH A THINK?? WHY?

[ovizxc]

I play in the same alliance BloodStorm in realm 19, on the account NIGHTMARE. I made some calculations and none from us doesn't recive the income 12% from the alliance(with 0% alliance tax). I took all my gold from the province, and i will wait 1 hour to see what is the production for real

[bloodyhell]

I have the same problem User BLOODYHELL, Alliance BLOODSTORM, realm 19. In fact is an alliance problem because after checking our entire alliance BLOODSTORM, reported having the same problem. We now we are the best players from this realm, and with minor exceptions from version 4 in general, but i don't think is fair for us always to play with production disadvantage. We paid that production bonus (10%) the entire realm for what if our lost is 12%?!

[spyderbvg]

Be happy my friends:
My production [with 100k worker on gold, fortress 8, Craftsmen Guild active, income from alliance level 6 (12%bonus on all income)] = 8695 gold per hour (11.48.00-12.48.00)
I don't have all the bonus from fortress, and you speak about alliance incame and guilds income  

[bloodyhell]

i am waiting, with print screen taken at 12.46.00, to see what will my production will be at 13.46.00 with 100.000 workers on gold in province 8, fortress 8, income 6 at the alliance, and the production guild active...

[ovizxc]

yeah from 12:19:30 to 13:19:30, i produced only 8580 gold with 100 k workers, in province 8, with no alliance tax; and i should produce 5000*1.8=9000 only from fortres's level.
0 alliance income with level 6 at income(12%)]
0 guilds
and just a part from the basic production

[bloodyhell]

from 12:46:00 to 13:46:00, i produced less than 9000 gold with 100000 workers, in province 8, with no alliance tax, with the production guild active and i should produce 5000*1.8=9000 only from fortres's level.
In conclusion, i benefit of:
0 (zero) alliance income with level 6 at income (12%)
0 (zero) guild bonus.
And about the basic production...well...not even that is completed...
 

[tiger]

I checked your wood in province 8. i hired 50 000 people and they produce 11088 wood in Hire - workers and the same in statistics - empire.
(50000/100) * 10(wood per 10 workers per h) * 1,8(fort lvl 8) * 1,1(guild) * 1,12(alliance) =11088
All resources works fine in that provinces, all numbers fit.
Gold - alliance income research isnt counted. Considering no change were made in V4 for very long, i think that gold isnt effected by alliance income research. I didnt play V4 for very long, so i am not totally sure in that and it will be checked in monday.
Also, your alliance had tax 10% at some time today. That could influence your production.

[spyderbvg]

I checked your wood in province 8. i hired 50 000 people and they produce 11088 wood in Hire - workers and the same in statistics - empire.
(50000/100) * 10(wood per 10 workers per h) * 1,8(fort lvl 8) * 1,1(guild) * 1,12(alliance) =11088
All resources works fine in that provinces, all numbers fit.
Gold - alliance income research isnt counted. Considering no change were made in V4 for very long, i think that gold isnt effected by alliance income research. I didnt play V4 for very long, so i am not totally sure in that and it will be checked in monday.
Also, your alliance had tax 10% at some time today. That could influence your production.

Man are you kidding? test made in 1 hours with 100k worker on gold with no tax on alliance >>> result: 8650 gold in 1 hour. Even with no guild and no alliance income should have at least 9000 gold in 1 hour. I will repeat test with 100k worker on wood and 100k worker wood.
How did you made the test? you look at statistics? on statistics show me with all worker on gold that I must produce 25k goold per hours, after 1 hours in level 8 province the gold was 18k. So tell me how kind of test did you do?

[tiger]

I checked numbers in stats and in hire workers and as i said, numbers fit for all resources. and for gold it isnt counted 12% alliance bonus which i dont know if it should be counted. I cant test anything on other people accounts, considering you play that account, i dont know your army upkeep, alliance tax, spies, if you did some spying from that province... So i can only see if number fits in stats. And they do, except gold which i already explained. I will report it to office and they will check it monday.

[spyderbvg]

k, I understand you check only stats.
What I told you early. The real production in province 8 for 100k worker was made with no alliance tax, no army upkeep, no spy report. So if you realy want to check block my account for 1 hors and check it again. I repeat the test now with 50k worker on every resources and i will put the real productions after 1 hours

[tiger]

Please do. because i set all on 1 acc in r19 and all production after 1 hour are fine.

[spyderbvg]

1 hour test with 50k workers on each resources:
Should be:
wood {[(50000/100 x10)x1.8]x1.12}x1.1=11.088
iron   {[(50000/100 x  2)x1.8]x1.12}x1.1=  2.217
stone {[(50000/100 x  5)x1.8]x1.12}x1.1=  5.544
gold   {[(50000/100 x  5)x1.8]x1.12}x1.1=  5.544
Show in statistics - empire
wood =11.088
iron   =  2.217
stone =  5.544
gold   =  4.950
Real production after 1 hours with 50k workers on each resources:
wood =  9.794
iron   =  1.959
stone =  4.897
gold   =  4.372
resuming:

              From formula     From empire statistics                        Real life (after 1 hours)
wood =      11.088                   11.088                                    9.794  (-12% from empire statistic)
iron   =        2.217                     2.217                                   1.959  (-12% from empire statistic)
stone =        5.544                     5.544                                   4.897  (-12% from empire statistic)
gold   =        5.544                     4.950  (-11% from formula)   4.372  (-12% from empire statistic)

Man i'm playing IO from to long time (8-9 years), maybe that rule with alliance income it is not applying to gold (i don't remember seeing it), but when i told you it is a problem, please trust me there is a problem. And please think at that:  IF THE BONUS FROM ALLIANCE IT IS NOT APPLYING ON GOLD PRODUCTIONS, WHY IN REAL LIFE I HAVE ANOTHER 12% LOST, IF THIS 12% OF ALLIANCE BONUS FROM INCOME ISN'T APPLYING ON GOLD IN REAL LIFE SHOULD I HAVE SAME AS EMPIRE STATISTIC

PS: MAKE PROPER VERIFICATIONS AND ANSWER AFTER THAT. I'M NOT A HALF REALM PLAYER SO I EXPECT A CORRECT ANSWER AFTER A PROPER EVALUATIONS! THANKS!