well u need 5x for it . For example that u are alone in alliance .And u find alliance with 7 players with 400k nw .they are in ur 2x ,war costs 14m ,and u can make a lot .u need a lot of honor and u scavange resources and u have bigger army which start to actually make profit and not just be hungry baby .there is always good job for very large army
agreed and thanks for your help my army set up is so different now and i have been teaching others even very experienced players in this game do not know what they are doing really.
