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Question: Which is most important battle in IO R5?  (Voting closed: May 01, 2009, 18:31:28 PM)
1.NEMO vs SHIRO - 1 (9.1%)
2.ANGHELDAN vs POPO - 3 (27.3%)
3.MILUTIN vs DEVILKISS - 7 (63.6%)
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« on: April 11, 2009, 17:26:59 PM »

Well i have 3 battles that changed r5 world a lot ,ill give a short description of them along with battle reports and circumstances ,
its not about bloodiest battles,but one that changed course of realm 5:

1.NEMO vs SHIRO
shiro was banned for abandoned account ,and this is not about what would happen if he wasnt banned.Shiro was strongest player in realm ,
bank was not nerfed and he had 200 milion gold in 7th month.He got 2 days ban and we had our only shot to take him down.His paladins were packed,
if they werent 10 players couldnot kill him.Serbia and veterans players came together ,and we had to send 2 kamikazes,rep.Srpska from serbia and flaszka from veterans.Shiro made 1 mistake ,he left retreat option disabled because he had monstruozly big army.first few player were field_battle attacking. nemo and shiro had very close battle ,and if nemo lost ,all players(or most) after him would die ,because he was third player in wave of about 10 players

http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/5/2008_11_14/3222366_3255248_775776

just to say hello to shiro he was strongest ,and found best exploit first .well bank nerf was after univ nerf ,so he would be no.1 today

2.ANGHELDAN vs POPO

All players that played r5 ,know who angheldan was.Highest nw warrior.A lot of wars ,a lot of kills from this monster.But he was too selfconfident
this battle proves great strength of spearmans ,that killed military monopolist of that date.Rumors say that angheldan didnt use spies in this attack
Angheldans fall changed military monopol of r5.Popo was alone in alliance but he was a hero of that day

http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/5/2009_1_25/3144451_3217581_1189116

3.Milutin vs devilkiss

This is chronologicaly latest battle of top players being killed.After months of hostility ,and their whole era of banking monopol they inherited from shiro,Largest farmer was killed.Its a shame that devil's paladins were in forts ,but it wouldnt change battle winner.
Bosphorus team disbanded shortly after devilkisses fall.Milutin had 1.5x less networth

http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/5/2009_3_2/3238348_3217583_1377723


i wasnt playing for last 3 weeks,so i would ask other players of r5 to freely give other medal battles that had big impact on r5 world in that time.And add battle with its background .I tried to be as objective as possible.




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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2009, 17:43:37 PM »


maximizing your flanking cavalry bonus is essential with big battles, because usually they last several rounds and the +50% bonus can show its full power (as opposed to the 1 round bonus for charge)
if recruiting cheap light spearman is the quickest way to do it, then it's a sound tactic.

this is particularly shown here :


even if Nemo has almost twice as much paladins as Shiro, he wins by luck with almost as much paladins as the defender in the end .... and that's because he got only less than half of his cavalry in flanks (thus inflicting less damages each rounds and making the battle longer).

frankly, Nemo is a lucky brute, but Popo is a much better tactician.


Have fun,
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2009, 17:48:44 PM »

i first saw mass spearmens at popo ,and shared with teammates they are most powerfull .We all made a lot spearmans,all serbian players had mass spearman in their ranks .well this is not big battle ,but i used even more specialized formation like here
http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/5/2009_2_18/3230944_3157015_1321115
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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2009, 18:10:54 PM »

i first saw mass spearmens at popo ,and shared with teammates they are most powerfull .We all made a lot spearmans,all serbian players had mass spearman in their ranks .well this is not big battle ,but i used even more specialized formation like here
http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/5/2009_2_18/3230944_3157015_1321115

you are mistaking the source of your victory.
if you had 2M swordsmen instead of spearmen, the result would have been the same .... and that's because you can put 600k+ pals in flanks as opposed to your opponents 200k+

usually, we use to say that the player who keeps phalanxes the longer, will likely be the winner in the end.
but that's because cavalry is the strongest unit at IO and only spears are the best troops to deal with it.
if you can deal more damages to the enemy cavalry than your opponent can dela to yours, then you're on your way to victory ... it's as simple as this *Smiley*

maximizing cavalry flanking bonus is the name of the game.

look : 25% of your light spearmen were killed effortlessly during the first 2 rounds of ranged attacks ... and the remaining were 95% killed in the first 2 melee rounds. Do you really believe that they "won" the battle by their attacks or by their presence at the beginning (thus allowing you to have 600k pals in flanks) ?


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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2009, 18:14:01 PM »

lol 2m sw is 2x more expensive to maintain and build *Smiley* .presence ofc ,they carry beer  *hahaha*.it s not effortlessly ,i got honor which made my neighbours to do army save *Smiley*
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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2009, 18:44:06 PM »

first one was a noob fight. *freak*
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2009, 18:48:35 PM »

its not about how good fight is ,its how much it affected entire r5.If he died ,many of us would died,and we all took about 10-20 milion of his gold each!
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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2009, 20:40:49 PM »

question is.. why gang up on 1 player?
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2009, 20:42:29 PM »

but i would say and vote for the fall of angheldan. that really changed realm 5 a lot
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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2009, 20:45:58 PM »

I dont know why.Veterans wanted him dead because they considered his bank exploit as cheating.Serbia just wanted him dead ,since we were enemies
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2009, 20:55:14 PM »

yeah... i got that message from jun before the attack.. he messaged me telling me to attack shiro10.. i didn't do it naturally.. he was around 8000+ kms i think and haven't done anything to me. thats what i really hate about this realm.. it might be a problem in other realms too but i really believe that if you want to kill someone's army.. wouldn't it be better to do it on your own instead of asking 100s of players to gang up on 1? i really think its lame.
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2009, 21:03:03 PM »

it was a reaaaly large army, and shiro had good medicine .Veternas didnt have players for first 4 attacks ,flaszka and nemo could go in front ,but cap and misugi were very weak with army (farming in moment when ban happend) ,thats why milutin ,me and idol were coming 3,4,5 place so cap and misugi still can take a load of gold.Also they couldnt take all gold (it was 200M ,and sigle player could take maybe 20M),and it was possible that shiro survives and recovers ,if only few attacks are made.Even bulgarians came for their share .

Vets lost tons of army there and took smallest share of gold.They were stronger then us in that moment and they fought fields ,and we all did sieges,even rep caught last train to take gold (he deserved it,suffered a lot in suicide)


I remembered now,shiro was participating in rep.srpska gangbang(enkim,shiro,emirkutlu),thats why we were enemies
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2009, 23:20:20 PM »

ahhh ic.. then your attack was justifyable in my eyes... wish they can put a function to this game where you can send your army to an ally to help out in the defense. anyway, i see a lot of people have voted with the milutin attack. personally and the way i saw it.. realm 5 didn't change from that attack.. but realm 5 changed when serbia declared war against bosphorus making bosphorus remove most of their members.. and those members joined different alliances. In turn, the former bosphorus members got picked on 1 by 1 and all of them quit.
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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2009, 23:27:52 PM »

that declaration was risky .Milutin and sheli had large honor ,but we all were weaker from their few stronger players ,and we were able to kill 10 of their players.We didnt kicked everybody,we expected big war ,many vs many ,but it ended like 15 vs 4 ,and from those 4 anksyete - vac-ed ,enkim and devil were to strong,and we could only hope milutin can kill oghar.But nothing happend in that war except rep had his 12 hrs offline sessions 4 days in a row.We dont blame him,life is more important then IO ,but he blames us because we kicked him.
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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2009, 21:39:09 PM »

yeah it was a shame they kicked most of their members.. i was actually excited how things will go on that war (eventhough i am just an observer) it became bosphorus's downfall when they did that.
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