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Im sure everybody has different ideas but what would the best defensive formation be for a Level 7 Fort in Mountains (boxed of course)? Im refering to both garrison and field army assuming a player has about 120K Elite troops of even propotions?

There isn't such thing as best defensive formation and that's because any formation can be beaten. The attacker will send the needed formation to beat whatever you keep in your province.

Some say that archers and cavalry is a good combination to keep inside the fortress, like 30% archers, 70% cavalry, others think that few archers are enough, 500-1000 for a level 7 fortress, others will do anything to convince you that the best army for a defense is no army at all and your army should be always on move....
What fits you better is for you to discover by using the calculator and by experience....  *pardon*

army should always be on the move :D

IMO, if u`re interested mostly on defense, try to keep the points low, have 5 provinces only (2nd mountain, or mountain wf), the best fort in town, garrison and u will be safer

Or keep your points under 50. You are much safer then :D

:D or capitulate at 0 points

Of course im well aware of army saves and the fact that there will always be an opponent who'll be able to take you down but refer to my earlier question which refers to best defensive formation with about 120K elite troops of mixed proportions. Again im not saying 'perfect' formation and i do realise that different players have different views. But this is a discussion to hear what each of you think is the best possible formation for yourselves.

well, i would fill the fort with 10k archers cause in it they're most efficient and the room left (should be 'round 6-7k) i would fill with cavalry, 'cause if the walls fall, during the siege ur archers will kill a lot of enemy phalanx so ur cavalry will have a great advantage and it might be able to inflict enough damage to the attacking army (whose moral by now is pretty low) for it to flee *evil*

No such thing as best formation :) if there were then everybody would have been using it.

Check this topic - http://www4.imperiaonline.org/forums/int/index.php?topic=2724.0

Please refer reply given by Stud. Its those kind of replies im looking for. Again i say that im not refering to a perfect formation everybody can use but rather a formation which you currently use or will use in future if you had to defend your Fortress (with only 120K elite troops). I know this depends on many other factors and im well aware of all these (ive been playing for more than a year). So i would appreciate more replies like Stud. Im just out for other views.

yeah, be more like me  *freak* *freak*

@power:  *bear*

well, nebthe made the complete point here...

Which i replied to


Cheers!

well, same answer. detailed, if u want, u can have 10 k or smth archers in fort or 7000 k archers, 3 k pals or 9 k pals, 1 k archers, for a boxed fort 7 on a mountain.

always do army saves, if u leave a 120 k elite army home, it will be wiped out sooner or later, u can not defend it, in most of the cases.

u wan t to know how to equilibrate also a 120 k army?

My advice:

- do not keep anything inside fort except of 2-3k elite archers. Keeping any kind of spearmen inside fort is almost suicide  *crazy* ; keeping portion of your cavalry inside fort dramatically (unless you have zillions of paladins) reduces the total damage of your field army and in many cases is the mistake which leads to loss for defender; keeping swordsmen inside fort is pointless since the attacker will have survived cavalry and easily kill them; keeping proportional portion of your field army in garrison will just weaken the main army, besides any spears inside fort will lead to easy win for the attacker.

anyway that's my real advice - do an army save trip ;o it's not necessary to be boring army save...just attack province with army and a lot of gold - you'll get gold, military points, honor and your army back :) then use the gold to rebuild losses, steal more from neighbours, kill some if possible and when you want to go offline just repeat the operation. Of course there is a possibility that someone will try to catch your army save but think from the other side - if your army was at home it would be even easier for him to kill it, not to mention that he won't be able to have spy information about your army size and unit distribution if it's not at home and you can ambush him with adding fresh reinforcements. And catching army save with less than 5 seconds delay is not so easy even for experienced players...and usually 5 seconds are more than enough to remove your army if you have reliable connection.

Nice advice  *rose* I like to pack my fort with archers from early on.  This era on r8 I have done better in defense than ever before. Basically combo of building up forts quickly, boxed mountain (well this was my 5th prov. after all plains and I boxed with 7th prov), build up fort 7  before reaching 15K points bec. its really very hard to hide 3mill stone and 1mill wood when carts start emptying  :D, packed full with x4 archers at all times. x4 is crucial for advantage.  So always try to keep a combo of x4 when you stack up archers. and HIGH BORDERS! I have had guys attack me blind and loose all their cats. Lots of fun.
I actually did not even build any other army until I got heavies and then I just built cav.  I still don't have spears and don't plan to build any until I have elites which will hopefully be soon. r8 is 8mos realm so all research is super expensive and slow.  Thus far no one has the trebs to take out my fort but I am planning for complete re-outfitting with packed fort 8 of elite archers  :D :D :D to greet those trebs when they arrive.  Actually opening up of fort 8 has had big effect on the game but no1 talks about it.  Any1 ever had fort 8 who can tell us about it defense potential??? I'd love to know more before I build mine.

Fort 8 has double hitpoints and the attacker needs 1000 or more trebs :P. And it's so expensive :D

the attacker needs 2500 trebs to knock it in 4 rounds

the best formation is 70k paladins,10k elite archers,40kphalanx,20k guards :)

sure it will be wiped by someone but not from all,
tonight i will wipe 170 k elite :)

This is far away from best formation :P

first u said no best formation,,and now far away ,,so there is one in ur opinion   X)
in my opinion ,all armies can be defeated even with kamikazee.but u should
let the player fear  the high amount of paladins and go for another easier one  :P :P :P

I never said there is best formation *hmm*
And those paladins will be easily killed with some phalanxes :D

we all read the manuel so we know that phalanxes kill paladins,,but this formations need  double army to defeat it at least while other formation can be defeated by 1.5x armies
try to have some fun with the battle calculator  :P X)

Just try with 40k paladins, 50k guardians and 100k phalanx. This army costs less than yours.
By the way, Leila proposed a game with armies but it wasn't too attractive for many players *hmm*

My main fort is usually 50-100% filled with Archers, H. Archers or E Archers (depending on what I can produce). If I have outer forts they have about 75 Archers in each no matter the size of the fort. I have no idea if this is a good strategy, it's just what I do.

Neb usually suggests 100.
I think bec. x4 keep either 80 or 120 or 400
all you want to do is inflict point damage in the outer forts
 :P

Ah yes ofc but not too expensive for a good farmer  :D :D :D
only 12 mill stone  :P easy for a big producer
 *pardon*

Now Nasio and Radoo what you haven't specified is whether you are hitting an empty fort; and if not then what are you estimating inside the fort???
'Cause surely some1 who has fort 8 isn't leaving it around empty for guys with 2500 trebs to swoop on in

 *kissgirl*

nice!! maybe I should give that a try

Id have 1000 E Archers and rest Pala's in the fort. And in front of the fort:2/4 Phalanx, 1/4 Guards and some more paladins.