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Title: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: nugo on May 03, 2011, 23:18:51 PM

DEAR TIGER ,

RAPTOR 2 was THE BEST player in this game and it is  really interesting was he cheating or not. He gave his explanation, but your answer ".......But 161 or 200 is to much", is not really explanation. so IO team be so kind when you remove such player give a proove of it.

 kind regards


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: tiger on May 03, 2011, 23:51:05 PM
He got answer in mail from admin. Thats why topic is locked.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: Furious3 on May 04, 2011, 00:57:23 AM
I am raptor2. This was the answer that Krum give me after i explained to him my first part of my strategy.  I do not want to write here all my strategy. But if necessary i will.

Hi,

if you only had the Architecture and University I could have agreed to an extent that it is possible in a fair way. But since you got everything else as well there is no way I can agree. The University's price and building time were increased so much 2 years ago. The bonus for occupying Researcher position in scientist was nerfed from 50% down to 20%, people weren't able to achieve what you achieved when the conditions were far more allowing, at times where you didn't lose a part of your income to alliance taxes. And yet despite all the extra obstacles that were introduced you perform better than all that have tried this before. I saw your excel tables. Speaking frankly I didn't understand a thing from them - first because they are in language I have only superficial knowledge of and second because I have no clue of the logic you applied when creating and arranging them. But I have my own tables and I can calculate myself how long does it take to get to these high levels expecially when its not the only thing you've constructed or researched. I am very sorry but the account will remain locked. I only hope you do not have any connections to a certain player that attempted the same thing and is known as one of the biggest cheaters in the game.

Best regards,
Krum, IO Support

So Krum said that he has not probe of any cheat of my part, but that he can not believe i could do what none players could do before when the scientist position give 50% research advantage and there was not alliance tax. Kstokic, the Leader of Federation knows that each time i want to ally federation i asked him to take down the alliance tax system.  And Emporium the alliance where i am right now, down the alliance tax to 15% because i asked.

This Krum sentece said every thing. This is the probe that IO manager (Krum) gives of my cheating:

....people weren't able to achieve what you achieved when the conditions were far more allowing, at times where you didn't lose a part of your income to alliance taxes....

Krum my friend this is the nature of all human being. From time to time one of us can do what other never could, so is how we get better each day.  

But to find someone guilty you need probes.  Well at least that is my Country Costa Rica.

Best Regards
Raptor2


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: sheridon on May 04, 2011, 02:34:48 AM
give us your formula man, send it to me in a message. dont worry about krum he is always like that, he will never say that he made a wrong ban so they give any excuse that sounds plausible. forget that account and build a new one, but show us how to do, lets see if they ban everyone  *gamer*


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: fragmaster on May 04, 2011, 03:16:48 AM
If u had broken build order - order that has unnatural difficulty curve with extraordinary payoff ,it was up to u to report it,not to exploit it over and over.Exploit of broken build instead of reporting it is cheating.If u ,for example find out that level 27 barracks makes soldiers that dont have upkeep,and u just play ignorant about it ,thinking that barracks level 27 are soo good that soldiers want to fight for free - ur wrong.U can always make up reason that something is not broken - even be convinced in it ,thats defensive mechanism of rationalization : u will rather accept explanation that makes u smart and best in game,rather than admitting its game flaw that needs to be patched.Winning a marathon using hidden shortcut that shortens path for 20km is not true winning.True winning is when u send mail about broken university to them before they ban u,and win era by defeating top enemies with conventional sources.
Strategy games are patched from time to time for this very reason.To find good balance and to maximize enjoyment of decisions.IO team is not obligated to give u proof.If it was other way around - u reporting it first,they patch loophole ,and then u lose account - well i wouldnt really know if its justified.

Ill tell u a story from IH game : some time ago there was abuse with recipes - something that for those who knew it was good,and for those who didnt was discriminating and hard.I was one of guys who knew it.And u can convince urself it was not cheating bla bla bla,actually its very similar thing as this one.i reported that thing on forum as soon as i found out about it,but unfortunately one crooked moderator deleted it same day,and ppl who were supposed to see it ,didnt see it on time .A lot of confusion about who deleted it in that time made me not to press the issue again - yet again i was happy that it wasnt permanently deleted - only in trash bin ,cleaning my name later.Anyway my account there was punished ,and now when i can be objective about it - i consider it was right decision by admins.We were disrupting balance of game itself ,regardless of some manual lines that could justify our actions.It was an exploit - there is no other euphemism needed for it ,because we could (we who knew about recipes,it turned out that many didnt ) earn much more gold from making better items.  So whats the moral of this story - i am one of curious players,and curious players find broken things - but right thing to do is to report it.And anything but reporting and stopping abusing as soon as u discover it is - cheating




Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: sheridon on May 04, 2011, 04:12:16 AM
i say... find, use and abuse... you still lose the accont *hihi*


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: Furious3 on May 04, 2011, 05:33:40 AM
I understand you point fragmaster.  And you are right it is not a fair playing a game specially on the internet if you find a way to do things easy that your enemies. But i did not find any short way to make high universities.  They just take a very long time to be made, and they take too much resources to be done.  There are not short ways. You have to get a lot of resources and you have to protect all those resources.  But there are different ways to protect resources from enemies.  One is to sell every thing on market when you are not online and other is like i did during like 5 months: I used diplomacy.  The strategy that i follow took 300 days to be made, and you most be online all time 18 hours during 300 days and you must hit 10 gold mines each 3 hours at least.

And you can not have every thing....you can not have universities, and other technolgies and a huge army and many battles.  Because huge armies cost a lot of gold and big battles take a lot of resources even if you win the battle you loss many soldiers and you have to decrease your populations to balance once more your army.  If you see my big battles, I just make them in the first 4 month on the realm.  None battle after the 4 months.  Just some attacks to my bases but none to my main army.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: fragmaster on May 04, 2011, 06:18:13 AM
Time was supposed to be unbeatable barrier for infinte/large universities.Thats why first patch was to make it extremely long (after initial mistake to transfer university from researches to buildings,unlocking very big time pool - multiple provinces and constructive hours ).So plan was to make time a bottleneck of university progress,in such matter that everyone end up with maximum 30tish-40tish level .Reason for that is that ppl before that patch were able to invest their all resources in researches - making realms dead farming race.So i bet u did attack coins alot to stuggle,but again ,u bypassed patched thing - time as limiting factor.

In my opinion market hide is also broken thing - such grow bypass didnt exist in v4 or earlier.But as im not aware of reasons why is it surviving so long - i can only speculate why.So market dump is surviving so long since begining of v4a,currently there are some limitations to it in v5 ,and market level dependencies,but its better.It helps populating game with some more casual players,who dont want to go through hell.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: fragmaster on May 04, 2011, 06:51:09 AM
So after all ,i think it is possible to do it ,but thing is that u were abusing non-raising price of 40+ levels. Heres the thing .Most researches use famous "formula 1" . by that formula x[n+1]=x[n]*F[n] ,where F[0]=1.96 and F[n+1]=F[n]*0.98 ,and x[0] being base price of research.This basicly means that every price almost doubles,near begining,and has some slowing effect from 0.98 factor.Problem with that was that after n=34 ,factor F[n] becomes less than 1 ,making things cheaper.To fix this initially (origin from space game where guy had univeristy 6000) ,developers changed x[n+1]=x[n] ,if n>40 ,to fix it.You just proved that this was not strong enaugh discourage for those 40+ levels,and that they need price and time to keep rising.So i dont think that u really needed to make classic cheating (like resource pushing) to do this,but still u were heavily abusing something that wasnt supposed to be reached. It reminds me of Quake 3 map where u have "ur not supposed to be here " graffiti and u can reach it only if u change gravity cvar. So result of this will be probably just developers fixing problem right this time,with some discouraging formula for n>40,and end this saga of univ breaking over and over again all these years.What will be decision of IO team,will they unlock ur account - i dont know.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: Furious3 on May 04, 2011, 07:48:45 AM
Remember that each time you make a new architecture level you decrease the price of any building i believe by 2%.  In my opinion, it is not wrong that each new architecture level gets down bulding price.  In Imperia Online game, each player takes a decision of what strategy to follow.  If you decide to increase your attack research that will have a huge effect in battle.  Especially if you make the optimal army combination.  If you decide to increase your military medicine you will loss less soldiers in battle.

In my opinion Imperia Online is very well done game.  And players dream always in finding a strategy that give them benefits over their enemies.  That is one of the main reasons that players love and keep them playing the game. You see man, i am a game addicted. I play many games.  And one of the things that player like more about games is to find out many different posibilities, things that they did not know were possible.

But i believe that IO game has to be improved to be more aggressive.  The capitulation issue is a problem. Not to eliminate it but to limite it.  The long distance is another weak point.  Too far distances....cartography technology should be improved to have more fun. One of the reason why i make so many universities was because not body attack me or they attack me too little.  So, it was not Raptor that make the mistake it was my enemies that did not did well their job. HE he....

Instead of changing the university building time, why not make the game more aggresive.  Lets say, that each time a player kill 300.000 enemies he gets 1+ attack advantage.  And each time that a player resist and make a good defense attacks and kill 300.000 enemy units he get 1+ defense o so.  In that way players will rather go for good attacks instead of building many universities.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: nugo on May 04, 2011, 11:21:34 AM


 To IO team,

 can you tell us officially that reaching the level which did raptor2 is technically impossible without cheating.

 unfortunately from the answer of Krum it is clear that raptor2 account was closed without checking it carefuly and providing any prooves.
 
 it leaves a feeling of unfearness.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: nugo on May 06, 2011, 07:47:47 AM

 unfortunately there is no answer from IO team to my qestion. it means that  thay dont have answer OR  they are ignoring my qestion. today I will open a new topic. maybe they will answer in new topic.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: pobeditel1 on May 08, 2011, 19:19:29 PM
Nugo you very much aware of the game raport2?
You know how it is done UNIVERSITY 161?
Do you know what level architecture there?
And how long did not alter the architecture?
And if does not change the architecture ........ why not change it 
I'm sure you know .......... But you will not share 

P.P Have you heard one of our saying ......... ''do not eat tomatoes with sticks''  *rose* *friends* *bear*


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: Furious3 on May 11, 2011, 20:39:02 PM
Dear Sheridon, my friend...there is not secret formula (or well i do not know about it) to make that high university level.  To make so many universites you need to plan all your strategy at the begining of the game.  Second, You need to kill first any close enemy, in that way you free the way to concentrated later on game.  Besides if you kill your close enemies like i did, many of them leave game and so they will become gold mines. 

To build up so many universites you will need a lot of resources. And if you got many gold mines close to you them that will be easy to collect gold.   That was whay i did... for that my names was Raptor2....because i attacked or rapped my enemies first.  Later, when game was like 4 moth old none enemy on the realm had the army that i had....but when you got not any close enemy... then you do not need to have a big army.  So i started to concentrated in production.  Tips ONE.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: sheridon on May 11, 2011, 23:08:25 PM
good strategy, tip 1 at least, i`ll do it too and see if i get banned for good gameplay *hihi*


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: dar_kwaan on May 14, 2011, 05:35:09 AM
Wow I wonder what would happen then if say 300 players in the realm realized a similar exploit and did not report it....would the same rule apply.....to ban the players for the rest of the era....a fault of the developers realized by players cannot be blamed on the player nor should the player be penalized for it. At least not in the Real World...I guess only in IO. If I were you Raptor I would take legal action to get back at least your funds invested in the game for the era.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: nugo on May 14, 2011, 08:26:40 AM

 in fact raptor2 was a big problem for CERTAIN players in this game. they werenot able to defeat him in the game, so they simply removed him USING krum.

 
 good luck to good people.
 
 I dont want to post in this forum any more.
 


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: pobeditel1 on May 15, 2011, 19:32:25 PM
1.For all defend Raport2? After having used the funds not allowed!
2. Raport2 himself  not ashamed   ''to say I'm guilty'' (cheats)?
A talk only fudge strategies ... etc.  *PUNISH* *pardon*


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: mascarell on May 15, 2011, 20:28:21 PM
You should be very insolent, Raptor2. Instead to apologize for exploiting/cheating you insist on your fairy tales.
May be you don't know that high level university exploit was popular before. The last known to me cheater was from Turkey previous era in realm8. Banned, of course. I guess due to popularity of this kind of cheats a time limit was introduced in the game. So high levels of universities were impossible. Especially above 100. You may have resources but you don't have the time to make them. As it is already mentioned above, may be it is a bug at a very high level of architecture 36 or more. Instead of reporting it to the support you exploited it. If you still can't understand the problem I wonder how you managed to pass 1000 net points of the game.
More over, may be you don't know, but you were carefully calculated for a lot of time. You can boost 25 levels of high universities with accumulated constructive hours. But above this is veeeeery suspicious. And you were followed and calculated to do it more more times. I'm sorry I don't have tables of calculations that were made for your progress.
And some remarks about you and your advocates here.
Raptor2, do you remember your battle with artas07? I guess you don't want to be remembered. But there it is - http://www9a.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/8/2011_1_16/7237279_7251233_1942616
You were lucky that support suspended checks. Especially for preliminary fixed battles.
For those who don't play in realm8 - artas07 was ally of raptor2 and was crashed by us. He left the federation alliance and attack Raptor2 with what was left (without machines, of course). Raptor2 overlayed light units and elite archers. The result was more than 700 honour? Did I wrote honour?! In this case it's better to call them 700 disgraces. AND YOU ARE ASKING FOR JUSTICE?! I'm glad you got it! Like all the cheaters.
Nugo, dar_kwaan, why don't write how do you finising the era? Like gold mines, eh? So I guess you feel furious about your helpless situation and you are looking for revange. And since you are not capable to achieve it in the game, you stick together to the cause of a cheater? :) Understandable. For you.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: fragmaster on May 15, 2011, 20:51:46 PM
Oh my ... Battle cant be more fixed than this!It is so transparent that attacker wants to die .63 moral on fort 8.If attacker wanted to win he would create alliance to have 73 moral.With all that "ally/friend" background ,this is just such shame.Raptor2 is hardcore cheater - fixing battle in this scale is simply outrageous.These are for best cheater award (if they decide to make one) .Self-proclaimed champion and best player?  *hahaha* .And who can convince me now that he didnt do any dirty trade in first 2-3 weeks ,to do everything faster,if he was ready to make honor points like this...Disaster..I did ask Raptor to send me his economy of first month,but i was only shown construction hours schedule from moment X ,where we have no idea how someone ended up high ranked before moment X .


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: F1 on May 15, 2011, 22:28:18 PM
Strategy Raptor2: Fraud and error in the benefit system, fixed battles, tight white flag from the nearest strong opponent (all the time). Grand strategy *xxx*. "Great player".  *locked*


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: pobeditel1 on May 16, 2011, 03:32:00 AM
Oh my ... Battle cant be more fixed than this!It is so transparent that attacker wants to die .63 moral on fort 8.If attacker wanted to win he would create alliance to have 73 moral.With all that "ally/friend" background ,this is just such shame.Raptor2 is hardcore cheater - fixing battle in this scale is simply outrageous.These are for best cheater award (if they decide to make one) .Self-proclaimed champion and best player?   .And who can convince me now that he didnt do any dirty trade in first 2-3 weeks ,to do everything faster,if he was ready to make honor points like this...Disaster..I did ask Raptor to send me his economy of first month,but i was only shown construction hours schedule from moment X ,where we have no idea how someone ended up high ranked before moment X .
Very clearly and precisely.  *ok*  *bear*


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: nugo on May 16, 2011, 08:11:37 AM

 wow, CERTAIN players started posting in this topic. it seems my last post hit the 10. i could imagine how many times you reported him and how happy you are now. frankly i didnot know 

 how many saints and angels were playing here.

 mascarel you telling me that I am finishing like gold mine( however i am not yet, I finished this game today) and how you finnishing - "The world is yours"  *bravo*.  dont take it too serious,
 
 thre is a real life behind this game.

 looking at you I am happy that never spent too much money and time on this game. in somewones signature in this forum was  " life is too short for IO", that is true. 


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: Furious3 on May 16, 2011, 09:34:19 AM
Fixed Battle ?....  Tell me people Igor... best warrior Realm 63 (2010) after he betrayed me had to take vacations almost during 4 month before the realm Ended.  I make like 20 attack each day to Igor... but he was too good so i never catch his army.  Ciapa, best warrior Realm 63 (2009) and all Leituna alliance leave the Realm63 because they could not defeat me.  

Do you really believe i need to fix a battle when a player (Artas) was almost 4 times smaller than me and attack me ?

I was close to destroy all Karsej and morarein, formula armies.  Say thanks to Krum that help you all the Bulgarians.

And you believe i can not destroy all the Metallica Players ?....

TELL ME LITTLE GUYS THAT ARE LEARNING TO PLAY IMPERIA ONLINE.  HOW DO YOU DEFEAT A PLAYER THAT GOT MILITARY MEDICINE LEVEL 35 AND SPY LEVEL 37  AND BORDER 37 ( WITH ALLIANCE TECH). AND A SIZE  OF 9.000.000 WHICH LITTLE ROACHES CAN NOT ATTACK ?

Artas was mad because i did not help him versus Kostenur attacks, so he decided to attack me before he left game. The army that i left was the best combination to get the higher honor.  I told Artas that Kosternur was a very fucking good warrior so to attack him was a waste of time.  So he got mad with me.

And i did not cheat to make all those universites...but i will not explain here how to make them.  I already send to Krum and IO mangers the full strategy.  And they know i did not cheat.  Krum know that i did  not cheat for that he never send me any probe.

And Maskarell, i believe you think like a small guy that do not now how to make universites higher of 25 ?.  Go and learn from IrunPunch with 82 universities.  Tell me have you get and army of 2.000.000 Phalanx ? 1.400.00 Paladins, 1.500.000 Elite Archers, 1300.000 Guardians, 1.500.000 light spearmens, 1.500.000 light archers ?

THAT WAS MY ARMY IN REALM 63,even Igor... best warrior in that realm could do nothing versus that huge army.  And i was the champion of Realm 63.  And Realm 8, too much for you litte guy.

I BELIEVE YOU ARE A TOO SMALL GUY TO THING ABOUT AN ARMY OF THAT SIZE.  AND TELL ME DID I CHEAT TO GET AM ARMY THAT SIZE ?

I BELIEVE I WILL WIN ANY REALM I PLAY. BUT AS MY FRIEND NUGO SAYS I WILL NOT EXPEND ANY MORE $ IN A GAME WHICH MANAGERS ARE THE TRUE CHEATERS.

THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH INTERNET. CUSTOMER DO NOT HAVE A WAY TO MAKE COMPANIES TO PAID FOR THEIR MISTAKE.  IN REAL LIVE AND IN MY COUNTRY I HAD ALREADY INITIATED A LEGAL DEMAND TO IMPERIA ONLINE SUPPORT TEAM.  I WAS A CUSTOMER AND DID NOT CHEAT AND I PAID FOR PLAY SO I HAVE THE LEGAL RIGHT TO RECEIVED WHAT I PAID.

AND FRAGMASTER PLEASE DO NOT MAKE THE IDIOT ROLE.  I ALREADY SEND YOU MY FULL STRATEGY TO MAKE UNIVERSITES THAT HIGH.  SO NOW, YOU CAN GO AND PLAY ANY REALM AND MAKE VERY HIGH UNIVERSITIES LEVELS.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: sheridon on May 16, 2011, 16:54:43 PM
so why you dont tell me how to do it man? i dont care about if i get banned because i always have 4 or 5 accounts in each realm, i cheat just as everyone else cheats, in life you always have to do a little cheat to make it. tell me and i`ll pump up some accounts, they can never ban all hahahaha. :evil3:


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: mascarell on May 16, 2011, 22:08:54 PM
Dude, I'm very glad I have posted your battle with artas07. So everyone can make his own conclusions. Not many will buy your story... LOL
F1, told you very well - "Fraud and error in the benefit system, fixed battles, tight white flag from the nearest strong opponent (all the time)." I will add only one thing - shameless cheater.
And to make your misery full I'll post your statistics - military points won: 46990, Defensive victories 3, defensive defeats 38, Offensive victories 10065, offensive defeats 38, enemy soldiers killed 1163868, own soldiers lost 1812734.
White flag forever, but big intention to crash all.  *hihi*
Nugo, do you want your statistics to be published or you were confused in your previous post?  *hihi*


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: nugo on May 17, 2011, 00:29:26 AM

 mascarell little genious, if you notice my name in this forum and in the game is the same, because I am not afraid like you to show who i am. so if someone wants to see my statistics they
 can do this without your help. I am playing here for my pleasure not for selfrealisation.  but who are you?

 what additional help you need CERTAIN players from IO team to win, maybe more time?

 


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: sheridon on May 17, 2011, 02:12:07 AM
nugo and furious dont get angry, everyone cheats, they only make noise and open their mouths when others cheat more than them, everyone crashes an army on them self, everyone cheats in war, everyone cheats, they can all say they dont cheat but we all know that we all do it. im not ashamed to say i cheat. the best cheater is the one that never gets caught, just improve your  cheating strategy and thats it.  :evil3:


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: pobeditel1 on May 17, 2011, 08:15:00 AM
RAPTOR 2
You are not you ashamed?
What kind of person are you?
Have you no morals?
Gotcha (fraud)!
Blocked your account
Now just keep rhubarb!
Why do not you think when you deceived?
Ad not only blocked his
And so you remove the net !!!!!!!
Like your fake university and net !!!!!!!!!
Battles tuned !!!!!!!!
Everything is fake to you !!!!!!!!!!
Fras, lying, cheating !!!!!!!!!

*stop*  *hmm* *PUNISH* *HUNTER*


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: funtomas on May 17, 2011, 11:30:59 AM
     All we understand already what genius player is Raptor2, who shows limitless mental capacity to the crowd. Yes ... but no ...
     2 players in our alliance were first on net rating . One, who was first in BG-world ended a few months ago, and - Mishok - here, in this realm, previous era. They are very well familiar with the strategy for such a rating. Can see. Look and another ratings - by millitary points and honor… *cool*. http://forum.imperiaonline.org/bg/index.php?topic=28287.new#new
    Raptor, you  can  break all our Union?!!   Stupid and ridiculous. At least - you can't even attack more than 20% of the union because of the limitation in netrange. On the other hand big army doesn't mean a good player when he doesn't know how to use it.  Much less a player with 48 losses in the attack ... over gold mines   :D. And... by whom was your white flag that I forgot something ... In our union can not remember someone had a flag from you.. I can show you and another thing - http://www43.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game_v4a/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/8/2011_4_8/7253235_7252919_2075717 . To see and lear how to win 700 honor in a real battle.

  Artas was angry? Are you stupid or think us about such? Strange, why exactly you... To me he was something more angry, but did not come to break into my 8 fortress without machines, only came by pillages. And how exactly you would have to help Artas? You, a farmer, who is 15 thousand imperial miles from Kostenur? And why this bad Lithuanian was retracted back into the union a few hours later? And what you write to Formula, when he laughed at you for the "great" battle? To refresh your memory? - There is no one to fight, was the answer...

  I don't know what  was your rating in the world where you have played before, but if you did the same and there, apparently there was not enough good players to understand that. For your regrets , however, here hit at stone...

  I can say that the players of the Federation are better than you because they try to play almost by the rules  ;) and as an union, unlike you, lone wolf, who uses any illegal methods to satisfy your own egos.



Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: pobeditel1 on May 17, 2011, 16:10:08 PM


And you believe i can not destroy all the Metallica Players ?....


http://www24.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game_v4a/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/8/2011_4_6/7150192_7251233_2073659
http://www24.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game_v4a/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/8/2011_4_6/7150192_7251233_2073660
http://www24.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game_v4a/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/8/2011_4_6/7150192_7251233_2073661
http://www24.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game_v4a/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/8/2011_4_6/7150192_7251233_2073662
.......................etc.
   Raptor2    EMPORIUM  +    8303   8309136 (О)   2418   :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: mascarell on May 17, 2011, 18:38:44 PM

TELL ME LITTLE GUYS THAT ARE LEARNING TO PLAY IMPERIA ONLINE.  HOW DO YOU DEFEAT A PLAYER THAT GOT MILITARY MEDICINE LEVEL 35 AND SPY LEVEL 37  AND BORDER 37 ( WITH ALLIANCE TECH). AND A SIZE  OF 9.000.000 WHICH LITTLE ROACHES CAN NOT ATTACK ?

And the battles that pobeditel posted are dated 6.04. Are you pathological liar or you want to prove your cheats by yourself in the forum?  *hihi*
Military level 15 and jump to military level 35? Why 35? Why not 49 or 116?  *xxx*


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: pobeditel1 on May 18, 2011, 07:24:55 AM

TELL ME LITTLE GUYS THAT ARE LEARNING TO PLAY IMPERIA ONLINE.  HOW DO YOU DEFEAT A PLAYER THAT GOT MILITARY MEDICINE LEVEL 35 AND SPY LEVEL 37  AND BORDER 37 ( WITH ALLIANCE TECH). AND A SIZE  OF 9.000.000 WHICH LITTLE ROACHES CAN NOT ATTACK ?


http://www24.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game_v4a/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/8/2011_4_6/7150192_7251233_2073659

The defender has recovered 47% of the army lost during the battle.

                                                                      
Glib liar


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: Dr.Whooosss on May 18, 2011, 22:11:16 PM
I OPEN THIS TOPIC NOT TO SHOW IF RAPTOR2 IS THE BEST OR NOT IMPERIA ONLINE PLAYER ( I BELIEVE IN FACT THAT I AM NOT).

I did open it and make it public to claim that i am a customer that paid a lot of money for a product from which i was banned because IO supported team said i cheat.  And they never send me a probe that i did cheat or something else.

Funtomas friend, If you read all my message you will see i never said that Metallica players were bad players.  In fact, I  know that you all are excellent warrior and may be Kosternur is one of the best i have seen. But that does not mean you  all can beat me.  Because, i was huge.   And second because all the metallica players were very far away from me.  And third, because at the end of the year i was getting ready to go to full war.

You know during, the first 2 months i got peace, but later Karsej and pitbull players from Bulgaria Betray me and attack all  my bases when i was sleeping.  So, i attack back all of them and destroy the armies of all of them.  Karsej had to capitulate to me during  the first  6 months of the Realm.   But later, i was the one that have to capitulate to him.  

Reason:  you can not break the universtity world record and at the same time get the bigger army in a Realm.  If i player could do that then he is a cheater, because it is not possible. To make many universites you will need a lot of resources.  And army cost you a lot.

About my technologies:

DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES YOU TO MAKE TECHNOLOGIES WHEN YOU GET UNIVERSITY LEVEL 161 ?

Centralization: To most of you like 14 or 12 or 10 days.  For RAPTOR2: 11 hours.

BORDER OUTPOST LEVEL 29, 13 hours.  I Got border level 28 when i was banned from game +  7 of alliance equal 35.

THE SAME FOR SPY LEVEL.

MILITARY MEDICINE: LEVEL 21.  My level 22 was close to get done when i was banned  And it tooks me like 20 hours the next level. So 23 +7 of the alliance equal 30.  So 6 days more and will be ready to the war.  And my army was like 50 % close to be ready.  

Each day i was bulding up between 125.000 and 150.000.  that is like 1.250.000 to 1.500.000 each 10 days.  And when you build up armies you build up point a lot more faster.  And, since i stop making universites all my resources were going to be used to make a huge army.

I was close to send this army to attack all my enemies:  3.000.000 light archers, 3.000.000 light spearmes, 800.000 paladins, and 1.000.000 elite archers.

See i did not send elite rampas, neither guardians, neither Phalanx.  Why ?  

Because i did not need them to win and because they are very slow.  In that way with my high cartography levels and a very fast army i could attack even those player far away from me like all the metallica players.

You may say that that army will loss versus Karsej of Formula1....well WHO NEED TO WIN IF YOU GOT MILITARY MEDICINE LEVEL 35 OR 36.  GO TO THE BATTLE SIMULATOR AND SEE THE RESULTS.

IT IS SAD KRUM STOP ALL THE FUN, HE HE...WELL ALL KNOW HE IS FROM BULGARY AND HE MAY BE BELIEVE THE METALLICA PLAYERS NEED A LITTLE HELP VERSUS RAPTOR2.  But i believe Krum is wrong METALLICA PLAYERS ARE VERY GOOD WARRIOR AND DO NOT NEED ANY HELP.


Thanks to Nugo and other Federation players that have supported my clain.




Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: lovewar on May 20, 2011, 21:15:34 PM
Without looking at any of the data, although I could, lots of it, I'm going to tell you what probably happened here.

Raptors kicks off to a flier, kills a few setup accounts for nice gold (*), kills off local competition, builds loads of uni-arch etc.... like never before....

Then as he says switches to army and it is really easy with the tech lead to get a big army etc..

My problem here with the moderation approach is there was no need to wait until Raptor gets a level trillion uni the damage would have been done and visible right at the start. Yet IO carried on taking the money and taking the effort only to come to these conclusions way way way after the unbalancing event occurred - such that any cheating was long gone along with hours and hours of play and some RL dosh too.

How hard would it be to build an early warning exception reporting for such a thing?!



* No evidence from me for this, it is just that is human nature for a player looking to push the limits and would help account for the exceptional start, so seems quite likely.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: Dr.Whooosss on May 21, 2011, 01:04:32 AM
Good point Lovewar, as I told in a message before the IO teams should establish a rule about which is the maximum allowed university level.  In that case, I would not follow the university strategy but the war strategy like I did in Realm 63.

But there is something else here that you maybe do not know.

First, to get high universities is a difficult task.  And during the first 3 or 4 month I just got university level 37 or something like that.  The reason was that I had many wars to fight during the beginning of the Realm (All the pitbull alliance from Bulgaria were fighting me). Until I defeat them, then I could start making higher universities levels.  

Besides, every body in the Realm 8 Knows that I was focus in university and technologies.  During 5th month, I asked Karsej my biggest enemy which university number he has ? and he told me he got university level 48.  It was not possible that Karsej my enemy had university level 48.   Who has university level 48 was me.  So, what Karsej did told me was the university level i got.  How he knew?  Well, he had a spy on Federation alliance all time.  And each weak or 2 i send to all the alliance about which university level i got, just they know about what i was doing.  

I was in like 6 different alliance and i told all of them my very high university levels so they got me in.

It is very easy to get into any alliance when you got universities so high.  Why ?  because if you  are the scientist with university level 161 all the alliance technologies are 87% cheaper than if other player is the scientist.  Let’s see an example: an alliance tech border outpost level 7 cost like 1.000.000.000 gold, but to emporium the alliance where i was it cost you just 187.000.000.

Another thing that you may be do not know is that I was not the only player that has a very high university level in Realm 8.  Formula1, the second player in Raking has university like 60 or higher.  And Krum did not ban him or did not say anything here in this forum about it.  Why?  Because, Formula1 is from Bulgaria.

Neither Formula1 says anything here about his university level.  

COMMAND FORMULA1?  TELL US YOUR UNIVERSITY LEVEL?.....

How i know Formula1 got very high university level ?  Well because, I used my spies to check all my enemy bases all time.  They never knew that my spies were in his bases.  But they did.  And when you make a new university, you have to do one essential thing:  

You have to change the capital.

And when you change the capital, if you want to win interest, then you have to move the gold to the capital to get the 34.982.000 maximum gold level to win the maximum interest level.  And that was, what Formula1 did each time he made a new university.

 I have my eyes on him and all my enemies all time.  How do you explain that 24 enemies from Bulgaria, all of them excellent warrior never could hit my main army ?.....Because, I new all  about them: armies, technologies (you can know many technologies about your enemy if you know how to do it), distances, cartography levels, etc...

If you see the Battles that Bulgaria players has write here, they are just small battles to the armies i got into my fortress.  And they hit them when i was sleepy.  Because, i always took my normal time to sleep..  Most of my enemies knew my country and the time i sleep and always i took my sleep time, because i new not body could hit my main army.  And i left armies into fortress to save gold.  Because, really need a lot gold to do what i did.


One more point LOVEWAR:  You said in few words the right strategy to make so high universities levels:

Raptors kicks off to a flier, kills a few setup accounts for nice gold (*), kills off local competition, builds loads of uni-arch etc.... like never before....


That basically, was the main strategy.  Did you see any cheater thing in that strategy ?......

Best Regards
Raptor2


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: lovewar on May 21, 2011, 03:22:52 AM
You it's amazing how this game gets under one's skin, it definately has something.

Raptor2, from what you are saying you found a bit of a loop hole with cheaper or faster uni post switching capitals, tbh that's probably enough to warrant the ban. You exploited it, sure with much skill i imagine but you still exploited it. Your competitor it sounds was doing the same only with less evidence as it was less unbalancing and hence less of an eye sore.

What i have beef with is such things could and should be easily catchable early on, before you'd spent half a year pushing the game to its limit. If IO is too lazy to do this early on then well, well certainly i can sympathise.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: sheridon on May 21, 2011, 03:55:36 AM
im sure they only banned him when he stopped buying credits *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha*


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: pobeditel1 on May 21, 2011, 14:25:05 PM
I OPEN THIS TOPIC NOT TO SHOW IF RAPTOR2 IS THE BEST OR NOT IMPERIA ONLINE PLAYER ( I BELIEVE IN FACT THAT I AM NOT).

The biggest cheater ............. No player  *pardon*
I did open it and make it public to claim that i am a customer that paid a lot of money for a product from which i was banned because IO supported team said i cheat.  And they never send me a probe that i did cheat or something else.
That you paid ......... Do they justify that you cheater?  *hmm*

Funtomas friend, If you read all my message you will see i never said that Metallica players were bad players.  In fact, I  know that you all are excellent warrior and may be Kosternur is one of the best i have seen. But that does not mean you  all can beat me.  Because, i was huge.   And second because all the metallica players were very far away from me.  And third, because at the end of the year i was getting ready to go to full war.

excuses  *pardon*

You know during, the first 2 months i got peace, but later Karsej and pitbull players from Bulgaria Betray me and attack all  my bases when i was sleeping.  So, i attack back all of them and destroy the armies of all of them.  Karsej had to capitulate to me during  the first  6 months of the Realm.   But later, i was the one that have to capitulate to him.  

never mind  *freak*

Reason:  you can not break the universtity world record and at the same time get the bigger army in a Realm.  If i player could do that then he is a cheater, because it is not possible. To make many universites you will need a lot of resources.  And army cost you a lot.

Your University>> fraud, Fars
*sos*


About my technologies:

DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES YOU TO MAKE TECHNOLOGIES WHEN YOU GET UNIVERSITY LEVEL 161 ?

Centralization: To most of you like 14 or 12 or 10 days.  For RAPTOR2: 11 hours.

BORDER OUTPOST LEVEL 29, 13 hours.  I Got border level 28 when i was banned from game +  7 of alliance equal 35.

THE SAME FOR SPY LEVEL.

MILITARY MEDICINE: LEVEL 21.  My level 22 was close to get done when i was banned  And it tooks me like 20 hours the next level. So 23 +7 of the alliance equal 30.  So 6 days more and will be ready to the war.  And my army was like 50 % close to be ready.  

Each day i was bulding up between 125.000 and 150.000.  that is like 1.250.000 to 1.500.000 each 10 days.  And when you build up armies you build up point a lot more faster.  And, since i stop making universites all my resources were going to be used to make a huge army.

I was close to send this army to attack all my enemies:  3.000.000 light archers, 3.000.000 light spearmes, 800.000 paladins, and 1.000.000 elite archers.

See i did not send elite rampas, neither guardians, neither Phalanx.  Why ?  

Because i did not need them to win and because they are very slow.  In that way with my high cartography levels and a very fast army i could attack even those player far away from me like all the metallica players.

You may say that that army will loss versus Karsej of Formula1....well WHO NEED TO WIN IF YOU GOT MILITARY MEDICINE LEVEL 35 OR 36.  GO TO THE BATTLE SIMULATOR AND SEE THE RESULTS.



All your studies are based on your fake university ...........
therefore:
Fake University> everything is fake


IT IS SAD KRUM STOP ALL THE FUN, HE HE...WELL ALL KNOW HE IS FROM BULGARY AND HE MAY BE BELIEVE THE METALLICA PLAYERS NEED A LITTLE HELP VERSUS RAPTOR2.  But i believe Krum is wrong METALLICA PLAYERS ARE VERY GOOD WARRIOR AND DO NOT NEED ANY HELP.
Krum before establishing (and venue to punish you) that you are the cheater ......... so I talked about it??  *hmm* *PUNISH*


P.P What are you, man??
Shame, have you no conscience??
You lie, cheat ........ Why?
What eyes you have to write??
Do not you be embarrassed?
Shame and disgrace YOU FOR IO

 *xxx* *xxx* *xxx* *xxx* *crazy* *crazy* *crazy*


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: sheridon on May 21, 2011, 15:33:45 PM
you know, i have done a few calculations and it IS possible to do high level universities. 1. you need to buy constructive hours everyday from start of era, get a friend to send you an attack each time you are about to construct a building so that the hours keep adding up in all provinces. 2. keep switching capitals between provinces to use the high constructive hours saved up in each one especially for university construction, 3. keep architecture levels increasing to keep the price of university moderately low. dont focus on anything else as raptor 2 said. maybe he found a bug, but i think that if you plan well from start of era and exploit the constructive hours, which is not against the rules, anyone can do it. you just have to pay for it. if that is what he did then thats why no proof can be found against him. as for the cheating with army crashes etc, thats normal everyday gameplay, everyone does that, i have played in 3 bulgarian alliances so far by using a hide ip program to hide my original country and i hve seen how they cheat, i have learned a lot of new ways to cheat in this game from them. but this strategy of high university doesnt need a cheat, just lots of credits, a friend very close to you with similar or 5x net range to help you. when under attack constructive hours dont consume, so you can accumulate only from buying them in 4 months 496 constructive hours in each province, add to that those from architecture. with 15 provinces after 6 months game play you can do incredible levels. but you need someone to send a 1000 spears attack to you when you decide to construct any other building. anyone who wants to do high university can do it, the risk is that they ban you and you lose your money as what happened to raptor. last year or 2 years ago i think a guy won a case against io for a similar ban and they had to return to him some credits or something like that, but his account was totally destroyed by attacks after that, i guess you can never win, if raptor wins a case you might magically see some huge armies appearing from some 50 net point account like in nomads invasion to break him completely.  *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha*


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: pobeditel1 on May 21, 2011, 16:35:46 PM
bulgarian alliances so far by using a hide ip program to hide my original country and i hve seen how they cheat, i have learned a lot of new ways to cheat in this game from them. but this strategy of high university doesnt need a cheat, just lots of credits, a friend very close to you with similar or 5x net range to help you. when under attack constructive hours dont consume, so you can accumulate only from buying them in 4 months 496 constructive hours in each province, add to that those from architecture. with 15 provinces after 6 months game play you can do incredible levels. but you need someone to send a 1000 spears attack to you when you decide to construct any other building. anyone who wants to do high university can do it, the risk is that they ban you and you lose your money as what happened to raptor. last year or 2 years ago i think a guy won a case against io for a similar ban and they had to return to him some credits or something like that, but his account was totally destroyed by attacks after that, i guess you can never win, if raptor wins a case you might magically see some huge armies appearing from some 50 net point account like in nomads invasion to break him completely.  *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha*

 *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha*
Do you read all the tales of Scheherazade  *kissgirl* *rose*


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: Dr.Whooosss on May 21, 2011, 20:18:04 PM
Lovewar, man there is none bug in changing the capitals to make universities.  They will take you the same time to build up even if you change Capital.  

Why always people thinks that to make big thing you need to cheat ?.....That was exactly  way that  KRUM  and TIGER and Fragmaster had thought about what I did.  In simple world, my play style was beyond his knowledge.


Do you really do not know why player change capital to build up universities ?.....Read Sheridon last post.  He explain why you need to change capitals very well.

And Sheridon man, what you said is right with some modifications tips.  But one point i did not need any friend to help to do what i do.  I kill my self all enemies armies.

You will see why was very easy for me:  Pitbull players were not expert fighters so i kill his army very easy.  I could kill Karsej armies too, but he capitulate to me 5 month of the game, and during that time he was building up his army.  When he was ready to attack me...i just capitulate to him.....since i was concentrated in universities....so i did not have resources and time to make a army as big as karsej have.

And Metallica players are good warriors but i am good as a warrior too..... and none of then could never attack my main army because...metallica players make a mistake:

METALLICA ARMIES WERE TOO SMALL COMPARE WITH MY ARMY...SO NONE OF THEM SEND NEVER ONE ATTACK TO MY MAIN ARMY BECAUSE I COULD DESTROY HIS ARMIES.    

Formula1, we are waiting what was you university level ?  Or Krum...can you check Formula1 university level and tell us his level before realm 8 ends ?

And, I challenge all Metallica players here: SHOW ME JUST ONE BATTLE TO MY MAIN ARMY ?.........

A SMALL PLAYER CAN NOT DEFEAT A HUGE ONE IF THE BIG ONE IS A EXPERT.  THAT IS A RULE.....IN THIS GAME.....FOR THAT REASON I ALWAYS BUILD UP A LOT.  THE BIGGER YOU ARE THE STRONGER YOU ARE.

I REMEMBER THE REALM 63, WHEN 7 WARRIORS JOIN FORCES TO DESTROY ME: THEY SENT ME A TORPEDO.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: fragmaster on May 21, 2011, 21:07:08 PM
That was exactly  way that  KRUM  and TIGER and Fragmaster had thought about what I did.

And this is exactly where ur low credibility drops to 0 . It was nicely explained to u, nature of ur cheating .Its not about using illegal interface and yet now u still base ur defence on that argument.Its exploiting mildly patched weak-spot of game mechanics.Patch(time increase) was not meant to harden high univ path ,but to make it unavailable.But as everywhere,oportunists like urself show up ,buy constructive hours for months stockpiling it.But it was heavy abuse.I bet u felt like genius when discovered that new harder limit can be bypassed too,but feeling will fade away - u will see.If ur smart person,ull know true reason.But what cant be justified is u insisting that broken build is kept,that everything should be returned to u.NO.U had ur fun,and party is over.Ill insist again for tweaking 40+ levels,and u can beat ur enemies conventional way next time if u wish.Or patch constructive hours limit,something that will bring balance again. U were pushing thing that were patched to disallow imbalanced play .Its not skill ,its farming in un-patched imbalanced combinatory space.And u knew it very well.If u didnt,it was nicely explained. Most good players dont seek and use broken builds lately because they know whats outcome - fix and removal of balance breaking accounts. It happened with many things in game .For example banking.When level14 was introduced (10% maximum) ,there were no fort limits rule ,meaning that people could get 10% on 200m gold or bilion gold per day.Does that make players who used it best?innovative ,yes ,but certanly not best ,coz its broken build not player who is responsible for achievement.Making new accounts here on forum,will lead u nowhere.One day u will understand that it was "imba" not "skill" that lead u to  highest rankings with huge lead.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: Dr.Whooosss on May 21, 2011, 21:23:25 PM
All players can buy constructive hours. And that is not cheat.

All player can make big big armies, but they do not make them because the do not know how...Only some few players got the six million elites units.   Tell me Fragmaster what was your bigger army ever in this game ?

All players can build up to get more than 6.000.000 point but most of them do not do that because does not know how.  Tell me Fragmastger, what was the bigger net point you ever got ?....500.000 points ?  1.000.000 points ?.....

All players can get border outpost and spy level 35 with alliance tech.  Buy most of them just got level 22 or 23.  Tell me Fragmaster what was the higher level you got ?.....

And all players can get military medicine level 30 with alliance tech.  Last year 63 with 34 universities i got military medicine level 26.  Tell me what was the higher level of military medicine you ever got ?....

And all players can get high universities levels, but just one did get UNIVERSITY LEVEL 161: RAPTOR2.

See my point: IF YOU ARE SMALL YOU THINK SMALL.  AND THAT IS YOU CONCEPT OF CHEATING.  MAY THAT CONCEPT WORK WELL IN IMPERIA ONLINE GAME....BUT NOT IN REAL WORD. 

AND IF YOU WANT TO KNOW RAPTOR2 PLAY STYLE JUST TELL ME THE REALM AND ILL WILL ERASE FROM THE MAP SINCE DAY ONE.  CAPITULATION WILL NOT ALLOWED.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: fragmaster on May 21, 2011, 21:34:42 PM
 *hihi* ok ,ill search some achevements if u really like,and edit this post .Mister unsecure lets measure dick contest.


http://forum.imperiaonline.org/int/index.php?topic=15321.msg130826#msg130826

no1 networth in this is in realm  version 4 with no university as building but research,no market dump,no guilds,no rotation things,no gifts  and 100 diamonds total spent by me . (not 1000 like u did ) .

And do u know why farmers never get big achievement acknowledge?its damn easy to farm.Today u have all sorts of "i dont need army" things .U can hide resources ,u have faster start coz of prices higher than GE , u can cheat on trade ,u can do whatever u want,collect every research and every building u want ,all u need is to run away from conflict and ull live.In older versions u couldnt do that.If u skip army,ur dead,u never make next province.u could resell siege eq for 50% resources,today u can do it with market for 5-10% cost .Everything after V4 became easy-mode game.so ur farming achievement worth nothing in todays rules,and u only make fool of urself with ur bragging.

now ill find some war tables..


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/528/decepw.png/

some war acheivements ,0 lost wars, and wars against everyone .Me being leader and responsible for most wins


some early game fighting stats (from decepticon era - war era )

(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5913/makatas2.jpg)

and ill add some late game mili stats in a second

also having winning in all 3 cathegories  mp ,honor ,and nw simultaneously as juanez r5 after maybe 8 months last era ,quitting without any doubt i cant finish 1st . it was 6000-7000 honor at 8 months mark . pitty that realm 5 become blitz and i dont have medals saved.All top farmers wiped again and again and again ,many cartho catches and won wars.All u need to do is ask around a bit.



I was ranked 1st in all cathegories v5 r82 alpha realm when it ended.That one wasnt competetional character ,but nonetheless something notable.

we were military top in realm 8 ,in year 2009 ,having most white flags on top raised .Quitted on vacation after killing all bankers .Me and my friend.Moki and Alesandros.In that realm also pulled biggest stunt ever .Spy masked attack with 800k hidden army.I had 1.5m army after lets say 6 months and everyone else had 700k .Sending 700k in attack and hiding 800k to make 2 second plant win that stayed biggest next 2 months. That era , played piva mareshalhk ,lots of bulgarians and others ...I will search screenshot,but there is no reason to lie .

I played ,true ,not very very long r4 in avengers.Alliance with most popular history in IO .Not knowing them ,is like not being on forum ever.

I dont have all night ...do i need to search for more?


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: sheridon on May 21, 2011, 22:25:03 PM
this is really incredible, you get banned for buying constructive hours and abusing it? hahahahaha this is incredible, io made a loophole so they can make more cash and then ban you when you spend your cash. incredible company, so you should spend but get no benefits, thats not being opportunist, thats buying a product and using it in the way it was intended. thats just like the gift system and all other failed methods to increase income :evil3:


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: fragmaster on May 21, 2011, 22:48:56 PM
Im sure that intention was not to gain unlimited power.It was blind spot .Group of programmers cannot predict everything.If u take a look at some big strategy games like startcraft and stracraft 2 - blizzard release patches all the time.Only empiric testing can discover broken build orders.He found one broken order,and ill say again ,he can say he didnt know he is not guilty ,but IO team decides if he is .Thats what i am talking about ,if u combine options u have its always possible to find some order that gives incredible advantage , which is definition of broken build order.Construction hours are so people dont have to wait few minutes here or there for several buildings .When u make new province and want to make several things ,u dont have to wait,u take 4 hours and make some buildings.Or to speed up forts a bit.That was intention .Not limitless rotation.U cant blame programmers for not predicting every abuse .They made building time several hundred hours instead of limiting it - because people always whine when u limit them something they want to abuse.As i say ,like in every other strategy,things become balanced by big number of patches,coz programmer cant predict everything ,and more importantly they are thinking about 1000 things ,while abuser focuses how to exploit 1 .


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: fragmaster on May 22, 2011, 00:12:22 AM
 i hope this should ease raptors pain : leshrac had university 560 and 17m networth , and raptor actually dont hold any record

http://forum.imperiaonline.org/int/index.php?topic=20876.0

ill try to find more data and posts  *freak*

http://forum.imperiaonline.org/pt/index.php?topic=10550.msg93412#msg93412

go cry with him , u guys can have a beer together  *bear* .He will explain to u how to deal with ur loss..


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: Dr.Whooosss on May 22, 2011, 00:40:58 AM
Oh my god Fragmaster now I see the true problem here...you...tiger and krum are mad with  me because i did what i did.  How old are you ?....17 ?....20 ?....

Starcraft is the king of the games man...I play that game since Year one.  So i have many many years playing that game..... Do you wana play versus me Starcraft one or 2 ?..... In fact if you wana play versus me tell me the account name and bring 2 friends with you.  I will play you 3 versus me if the game is starcraft I.....  I remember once that i defeat 3 expert players.  I took me like 4 hours.

But you can not compare starcraft versus IO.  IO is a great game but the IO manager team is not.  You see, starcraft never ban players like you did.  They improve their game using patches...

And your address show just 101 universities.......not 500.  And leshrac is not you.....if fact leshrac  is may be the best player or one of the best.  And i am sure that if he were here he will join forces with me and not with you.  Because you banned him like you did to me.



Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: fragmaster on May 22, 2011, 01:10:38 AM
 *hahaha* i understand ur starcraft level as soon as u mention 1vX play.If u can win them 1v2 ,they are not experts,its not possible.Whats ur level ?4gate rusher silver?and sc1?u play "hunters" class maps?go on ur beer with leshrac ,here u dont have anything to solve. U were saying i did nothing in game,and now u compare me and leshrac.I didnt say im best,u did say u are best ,and that i did nothing,never crossing 1m nw.i proved u wrong, i did much more than u anticipated.now u deflect things.u prove ur arguments by displacements....there is nothing more to talk about .Displacement and deflection speak enough about someones intellectual level.We have nothing to talk about anymore.I was only one taking stand for u in IO team ,and u were calling me clown ,with to quote u "idiot role".All u figured out to mention is my age and some kind of conspiracy against ur superior mind players.Do u think this is police academy,where too smart people arent accepted?if u are smart, u can see further than ur account . We were trying to show u that u were not first person that did it ,and that game and realms must be balanced.

Anyway ur basing all ur credibility and achievements based upon ur broken univ build.Show us one of ur dominant military eras .Where u have 0 offensive defeats, and decent K:D ,most military points,and many won wars .Ofc u dont have them.U didnt keep any archers in paladin garrisoned F8.That type of players is not even top class.That speaks enough .All u show us are farmer stats in farmer rules.U cant solve game equation outside of economy factor .If u did, u would do a minor thing like inserting 1k archers along paladins when ur offline.Research level X ,building level Y.All i saw is taking punches and white flag calculations,and suspicious battles that look like fixed.Is there any realm where u ruled from 1st to last month?actually i dont care ,i lost too much time on u ,first trying to help ,and now in meaningless arguments.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: sheridon on May 22, 2011, 01:48:42 AM
my wife just told me what is the big problem here. the owners of the game get angry when they set limits and some guy just comes along and blows it all away. i remember when the first set of guys started getting all 25 provinces, krum use to say that it was impossible to do, after that everyone was doing it and they started asking why they couldnt colonise the neighbors provinces too because game description said it was possible... i quote.................. To the neighbor! The more advanced the organization of the Emperor, the easier it is to manage lands... why not include the lands of your dear neighbor too?............... big fight in the forum and they said very bluntly.. its impossible to do. topic closed. they then tried to make it more difficult, and each era guys come along and break them again and again. even in v5 we see people doing things they thought impossible. maria in r82 colonised all provinces, made tons of colonies, huge army and then after being number one and being bored with nothing more to do, disbanded her army and quit. thats a regular day in io for you. they hate it when you do things they tried to make impossible, and even though its perfectly legal they will ban yu just because you did it.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: sheridon on May 22, 2011, 01:51:03 AM
eveyone gets banned for buying constructive hours and using them it seems................. :evil3:


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: Lorac on May 22, 2011, 03:36:44 AM
And your address show just 101 universities.......not 500.

actually he had 17.500.000 Networth points, university 560, military medicine 37
http://forum.imperiaonline.org/pt/index.php?topic=7721.0
http://forum.imperiaonline.org/pt/index.php?topic=10652.msg94581;topicseen#msg94581

that print (101) he took long time before block.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: pobeditel1 on May 22, 2011, 18:35:57 PM

METALLICA ARMIES WERE TOO SMALL COMPARE WITH MY ARMY...SO NONE OF THEM SEND NEVER ONE ATTACK TO MY MAIN ARMY BECAUSE I COULD DESTROY HIS ARMIES.    

                                                            LIAR
So you before any mandatory block .... You move your army in another province  *WASSUP*  *hmm*


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: vmandura on May 23, 2011, 15:41:08 PM
my oppinion: raptor is correct. fragmaster is wrong. reason?
fragmasters statistics are impressive and i support fully that strategy of play and also use it. but that is not the reason to spit on another ones strategy aswell. your argument about raptors using of the same flaw in two consecutive eras is just exposing HUGE LAZYNESS AND INPROFFESIONALITY OF A PART OF IO STAFF. and posting about other players who managed to exploit that flaw in other eras is just an EXTENSION OF THAT LAZYNESS AND INPROFFESIONALITY. v5 has a limit to university at 40. end of story. was it impossible and difficult to use same principal in v4 for 2 or even more years?!! no, it wasn't... it doesn't even take much working on the code. as the matter of fact, employ me and i will come to a solution in 2 month time tops. enough about that. you said much about raptors hurting feelings of IO by exploiting one flaw so you needed to punish him, ok, makes sence. what about some players that rose to 300k pts after only 2 weeks play inr82? shouldn't they get banned? what about alliances that used flaw with donations? shouldn't they be disalved? what about players that exploited unlimited interest on their gold in capital? shouldn't they be banned? what about players who used flaw with enhanced nomad cavelry that was fixed only few months ago? what about them? what about players with colony of speeding up cavelry who used flaw with reducing time under 40min minimum when attacking? what about them? what about players who attacked castles individualy in r84 and gained honor that way(since when you get honor from automaticly set army? shouldn't have i gotten it when i attacked my own provinces in that case?) and huge MP that by any simulation couldn't be that high and shouldn't appear at all because it is authomatic army? huh what about them? this selective punishing of players who are cunning and use no unpermited scripts or multi acc playing is foul and i hope you realise it soon enough before a rain of legal movements and dissapointment and dissaproving falls on IO HQ. in Croatia we have a saying that can be translated this way: You see a thorn in my eye and don't see a logg in your own. there is another one that says something like thiss: first clean up your own frontyard if you want to mock mine. i am not subjective, bitter or against IO. i just want to show the other side of the medal. since beginning of v5 i found plenty of flaws besides ones i mentioned earlier(strength of catapults in forts and on field was too high, no delay from attacking your own provinces, flaw with mp earned in wars(alliances that lost got exact ammount of MP they earned in war although they should get less)etc etc) and reported them all. way they were taken for real and time that took to correct them is ... hmmm. i can't find a word to say this. you're smart bunch fellas. you will understand 'what the artist wanted to say'. any reply is welcome. i will erwait your oppinions and replies with anticipation.

respect,
            vmandura, r84


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: sheridon on May 23, 2011, 16:15:38 PM
+1 karma for you man, very well explained argument and true. we all exploit the flaws, i doubled my phalanx in r82 by relocating a recalling them many times and i know many people who abused many things but never get banned. but thats io, they put limits when they feel to an ban you when they made the mistake to sell constructive hours


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: vmandura on May 23, 2011, 16:44:16 PM
hmmm. i just found another flaw. now i understand what odin ment by saying that they can keep 5 castles with army they have and not go to negative gold. because there is a bug with alliance army movement. when in movement, alliance army upkeep reduces multiple times. i think that is why onogonduri army is that masive and they have no problem with controling castles and rally points. maybe i am wrong, but they are having use of it 120%. now let's see what IO will decide to do with this situation? will onogonduri be disolved? hmmm i don't know why, but i have a strong gut feeling that the answer is NO. i am not saying that because i think onogonduri have a favourite status and benefits at IO(although i even heard some roumours about that). i am just saying that it will again be a foul to do so, but the chain reaction on that and influence and role that alliance achieved and hold in r82 is too significant in this era that it would disrupt the whole picture of the era if they do so. outcome that i predict will only go in favour of my previous post where i say no players should be banned for using flaws IO caused(or to be exact NOT PREVENTED).   


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: fragmaster on May 23, 2011, 16:55:21 PM
onogonduri will get what they deserve.Things are reported few days ago .Its holidays in bulgaria ,when they are back from holiday ,things will be checked and solved .There are speculations they are cloning armies .I cant check these things ,i have no tools for that.I also know that some people from r82 are deleted for creating resources with bug. All i know that if someone finds out and use major exploit and they are caught ,they get punished.


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: vmandura on May 23, 2011, 17:02:52 PM
thx for the reply. also the thing i spoke of the castles authomatic army giving honor and enormous MP, the proof of that is as clear as it gets: look battles of the realm in r84. several players used this flaw to gain massive MP and honor although they were never to be seen with such atributes just 1 day before introducing castles into a realm. i know also the names, but this is not a place for such stories. the same thing with alliance army upkeep during movement is massively used by leading alliances in r84


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: funtomas on May 24, 2011, 12:42:31 PM
 From a distance a player is difficult to determine who is right in Raptor's case. But those more familiar can understand that in his development there is something rotten. Each computer program can make a mistake at some point, often players can find it before programmers , but the correct player says about it. The work of the team is to take measures not to bend the one-year game of thousands of players.
 A few months ago was fixed a bug just in the construction of the university. Whether it this was the reason for successful jump to the empyrean...
 Separately, that your strategy, Raptor,  like resembles an account without bartender. All year preparing it for some players, that I assure, are enought good. In fact, everyone in the alliance are good, long time we play together and I know their capabilities. That's why we are in an alliance, don't collect rabble to the alliance treasury.  Why do you think they will put their armies when see the ratio of losses? Or why you were sure you can catch any army of those who will be in 5 range /3 or 4 players in whole realm/? Good warrior in the IO is not just a player with an army, this requires balanced development and a lot more another calculations including  economic development.
  This for spying on us, also fudge. You  tried to put spies in the our union some times, but of course - failed.  You only watched the change of Formula's capital. 2 weeks before your bann you was in unions with low studies, your own war studies - attack, armor /14 level/, military medicine /11 level/, espionage and border outposts  - are also very low /as an every farmer strategy/. You start to develop them only when you go to the Emporium. About this time rise 40 levels University. And only for military medicine, my accounts were you take about more then 100 hours or 4.5 days and if at the last values ​​of the university. First, probably raised borders, perhaps only then and espionage. Or may be have another account for spying, like Albacher of Hmanos? May be Omorach, the player, who was from Indonesia previous era, but now from Costa Rica too...as you?


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: Infection on May 26, 2011, 19:28:11 PM
onogonduri will get what they deserve.Things are reported few days ago .Its holidays in bulgaria ,when they are back from holiday ,things will be checked and solved .There are speculations they are cloning armies .I cant check these things ,i have no tools for that.I also know that some people from r82 are deleted for creating resources with bug. All i know that if someone finds out and use major exploit and they are caught ,they get punished.

and ...is justice just slow,...or what? :hard:


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: Furious3 on August 20, 2011, 00:09:50 AM
Krum always favored Bulgarian Players.....


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: Lordshana on November 05, 2011, 01:31:48 AM
exposing HUGE LAZYNESS AND INPROFFESIONALITY OF A PART OF IO STAFF. and posting about other players who managed to exploit that flaw in other eras is just an EXTENSION OF THAT LAZYNESS AND INPROFFESIONALITY.


Still Cant see any reply on the Lazyness of IO Staff 


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: Ferocity on January 23, 2013, 20:44:00 PM
Incredible how a player Raptor2 got 161 university level, while he was attacked all the time for Metallica the military alliance winner?

And what he will Raptor2 did if Krum the Imperia Online manager did not help the Bulgarian?


Title: Re: why did you close topic about RAPTOR 2 ???????????
Post by: Ferocity on March 13, 2014, 02:19:36 AM
I believe i can defeat Raptor 2. He he...