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Nomads Invasion => Era 7 Chronicles => Topic started by: Oton on March 19, 2011, 10:09:09 AM



Title: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: Oton on March 19, 2011, 10:09:09 AM
Official Tournament Rules

- Game speed - Blitz (x4).
- No attacks between players.
- Automatic attacks are performed against each player every 26 hours; totally 33 attacks.
- All players are Imperians and all attacks are Nomad.
- You can boost Nomad attacks up to 20% for unlimited number of players. In order to boost someone's attack, you must have at least one life. You can boost someone's attack only in case he is currently ranked up to 500 positions above or below you. A player can be boosted up to 20% for one attack. Boosting an attack is allowed just during the first 8 hours from wave's beginning.
- First 3 attacks will be the same for all players.
- After 3rd attack the attacking armies' strength will depend on the player's current ranking:
    1st place - 2,00 times stronger army (number of soldiers) than base
    2nd place - 1,99 times stronger army (number of soldiers) than base
    3rd place - 1,98 times stronger army (number of soldiers) than base
    ...
    100th to 200th place - base army
    201th place - 0,01 times weaker army (number of soldiers) than base
    202th place - 0,02 times weaker army (number of soldiers) than base
All players ranked below 250th place will be attacked by 0,5 times weaker army than base army.

 - Battles are calculated the same way as the rest of the realms in IO. Units do not have bearing capacity.
 - Attack types will not take turns.
 - If the attacking army wins, all player's buildings drop by 1 level and their base net worth points cost is deducted from player's points.
 - If the player does not have an annexed province which is attacked, the army for the missing province is added to rest of the attacking armies.
 - For each successful defensive victory each player will receive war income equal to 50% of the annihilated enemy armies. This income will be available for only 24 hours.
 - Maximum player lives - 15. Every battle lost costs 1 life (so if a wave has 4 attacks, you could lose 4 lives). If a player loses all his 15 lives, he can continue playing, but will be eligible for the special awards only.
 - All players start with Fortress level 1, with 25 garrisoned archers. The Fortress must be activated in the beginning.
 - The maximum count of provinces each player can annex and develop is 4, along with Province 1.
 - Resource transportation is instant.
 - Soldier training queue is available
 - Infantry Barracks have 50% increased capacity.
 - Fortresses have maximum resources capacity (resources of each type):

     Fortress 0 -     10,000
     Fortress 1 -     20,000
     Fortress 2 -     35,000
     Fortress 3 -    110,000
     Fortress 4 -    410,000
     Fortress 5 -  1,210,000
     Fortress 6 -  4,810,000
     Fortress 7 - 19,210,000
     Fortress 8 - 38,410,000

 - All players have access to the 10 hours resource income.
 - Market prices will be fixed by their base equivalent and will not change during the whole Era. Buying option will be available under attack. There is fixed market commision - 5%.
 - Transport stations will not be slowed under attack.
 - No colonies
 - No Gambling.
 - No Alliances.
 - No Espionage between players.
 - No Vacation Mode.
 - No 6 hours offline rule.
 - No battle history for other players.
 - Rankings are only by net worth points.

 - All rewards will be paid only by PayPal or Moneybookers.

Comments, questions and discussion would be appreciated.


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: belgarion on March 19, 2011, 12:19:39 PM
ok so where is it and where are 200 creds from last era grrrrrrrrrrrrr


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: tiger on March 19, 2011, 12:36:17 PM
You have button on side in V4 and V5 realms.
200 credits e-pin you got on mail you used to register your account.


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: nekodrugi on March 19, 2011, 18:19:37 PM

 - All players have access to the 10 hours resource income.
 - Market prices will be fixed by their base equivalent and will not change during the whole Era. Buying option will be available under attack. There is fixed market commision - 5%.
 - Transport stations will not be slowed under attack.
 - No Gambling.
 - No Alliances.
 - No Espionage between players.
 - No Vacation Mode.
 - No 6 hours offline rule.
 - No battle history for other players.
 - Rankings are only by net worth points.

Comments, questions and discussion would be appreciated.

To clarify

- All players have access to the 10 hours resource income.

And this would cost you diamonds. Last time i played Nomads invasion i was mislead to believe you ACTUALLY do have access to 10 hours income.

And this is for all those that play nomad invasion for the first time. Old players knows that already

Now a questions. What about guilds?

Playing V5 i learn they are very VERY VERY important.

Actually guilds are game changer and if we can start them in nomads invasion players that decide not to get them can forget to get anywhere in nomads invasion.

Couldn't read anywhere how fast economy is producing (it must be very fast)
Couldn't read anywhere how fast researches would go (again it must be very fast)
Couldn't read anywhere how fast army is building

And finally i really don't understand what you mean with "You can boost Nomad attacks up to 20% for unlimited number of players"

How do you boost nomad attacks when you are imperian and when computer (admins) send batch attacks to players. If things are the same like in old nomad invasion you would see attacks the moment last attack ends. So basically you would have 24/7 attack icon.



Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: tiger on March 19, 2011, 18:51:42 PM
Yes, all players have access to 10h bonus resources, but to get them, you must pay 10 diamonds, as in normal IO. That was introduced after era 1 when top 10 have only 6 h bonus resources.
Premium will be active all 36-37 days how much era lasts, but guilds you will have to activate for diamonds.
Game will be at 4x speed, meaning all stuff are 4x faster. You produce 4 x more resources, build and research 4x faster, population grows 4x faster...
You will be able to pay in wood and iron to boost someone attack, but only in first 8 h of attack being sent. So attack icon is basicly all the time active. Attack travels 26 h, then it hits. So from 26 h - 18 h you can activate +20% stronger attack for some player and his army will get 20% more numerous, he will see that change on his attack icon. If nobody does it to player x, then he gets hit by normal attack as he should, depending on his position in ranking.
About no player without guild stand a chance...
There will be a lot of players playing, most of them wont play for first place, they will play for fun. Thats why attacks under 250 place are 0,5 base attack. So you can enjoy and play with goal to have fun and finish era, maybe undefeated, or atlest alive. Who wish to be first, will have to show great strategy, great knowledge, adopt to new rules and use guilds and 10 h bonus resources. It wont be all in who uses diamonds. Player who knows a lot more, can beat most players without diamonds. But he cant beat same skill player with diamonds.


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: Sheremetev on March 19, 2011, 19:01:18 PM
It is explained above. But it lacks an example, so: let's say the wave consists of 10 000 spearmen. If somebody boosts that attack against you, you will have to deal with 12 000 spearmen. You got it? I think it is a great way to spoil the game of others. Maybe you talk with 10 of your friends, who are smart enough not to waste all their lives until endgame. And then... all you adversaries in top 10 will have to deal with 10 waves, each 20% stronger than normally.
There will be a lot of players playing, most of them wont play for first place, they will play for fun. Thats why attacks under 250 place are 0,5 base attack. So you can enjoy and play with goal to have fun and finish era, maybe undefeated, or atlest alive.

Exactly this type of people will have A LOT of fun. With the rest, I cannot agree. So, gentlemen, better buy some new rubbers and find your banhammers, cos you gonna need em. Big time.


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: nekodrugi on March 19, 2011, 19:07:13 PM
Yes, all players have access to 10h bonus resources, but to get them, you must pay 10 diamonds, as in normal IO. That was introduced after era 1 when top 10 have only 6 h bonus resources.
Premium will be active all 36-37 days how much era lasts, but guilds you will have to activate for diamonds.
Game will be at 4x speed, meaning all stuff are 4x faster. You produce 4 x more resources, build and research 4x faster, population grows 4x faster...
You will be able to pay in wood and iron to boost someone attack, but only in first 8 h of attack being sent. So attack icon is basicly all the time active. Attack travels 26 h, then it hits. So from 26 h - 18 h you can activate +20% stronger attack for some player and his army will get 20% more numerous, he will see that change on his attack icon. If nobody does it to player x, then he gets hit by normal attack as he should, depending on his position in ranking.
About no player without guild stand a chance...
There will be a lot of players playing, most of them wont play for first place, they will play for fun. Thats why attacks under 250 place are 0,5 base attack. So you can enjoy and play with goal to have fun and finish era, maybe undefeated, or atlest alive. Who wish to be first, will have to show great strategy, great knowledge, adopt to new rules and use guilds and 10 h bonus resources. It wont be all in who uses diamonds. Player who knows a lot more, can beat most players without diamonds. But he cant beat same skill player with diamonds.

Thanks for answers  *rose*

One more quick question. What about rare resources. I guess colonization won't exist in nomad invasion but need confirmation.

As for playing without credits it really depends what player wants. I'm no noob (i hope) in game and i usually don't play just to play.

So for all players that are like me (want to compete with best) playing without diamonds is lost cause.

When i played nomad invasion i realized that without credits it's impossible to finish game without losing life, that at later stage, you just can't rebuild army fast enough to defend next attack and that your economy (net points) would be much much lower than those playing with diamonds.

Average player with diamonds would blow away even the best player without diamonds especially in V5. I play V5 and i know that without diamonds there is almost no way to compete against those with diamonds.


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: tiger on March 19, 2011, 19:57:11 PM
No colonies. Because you cant send attacks.
Yes, nobody cant compete for main prize without diamonds. But 36 *10 + guilds are less then 500 diamonds for whole NI era if you wish to prove you are the best.


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: nekodrugi on March 19, 2011, 23:20:36 PM
No colonies. Because you cant send attacks.
Yes, nobody cant compete for main prize without diamonds. But 36 *10 + guilds are less then 500 diamonds for whole NI era if you wish to prove you are the best.


Ha ha ha ha ha

My friend, I had some similar conversation with krum some time ago (ending up in me being banned. Cant stand when anyone treat other people like less valuable or less smart or . . . .)

Anyway, in that thread i suggested that if IO really want to make "who is the best warrior" challenge they should set one price for all players. Once players pay (and you decide what's enough for you) that price there is no other costs.

Everybody play on equal ground and THAN you can see who is the best and where are you in grand scheme.

Right now nomad invasion is just not that game.


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: belgarion on March 25, 2011, 09:42:24 AM
You have button on side in V4 and V5 realms.
200 credits e-pin you got on mail you used to register your account.


ok i pressed the register button like a 100 times and still nothing  *hmm*all i get are the rules


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: tiger on March 25, 2011, 10:56:12 AM
You need to click button and then choose username(name of current account or totally new). Then yeate account. For that you must have 50 diamonds on your account. Do you have them?


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: sheridon on March 25, 2011, 13:09:10 PM
if you donbt have the credits in your account the register link doesnt appear


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: ___justus_ on April 06, 2011, 01:00:29 AM
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just i am patient with my constructions but soon,i will speak about...


http://forum.imperiaonline.org/int/index.php?topic=26521.0

also need to speak about that...but just the topic is locked,i couldnt tell something :(

need to speak about thats and something elses too,in details...

we see later..we will speak about...




Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: ___justus_ on April 06, 2011, 01:22:12 AM
need to speak about that medals too..
and need to speak about also fair military graphichs of the each one warrior..
and also,we need to speak about military rank too,as fairly...

we no longer need to speak about-correctly...


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: tiger on April 06, 2011, 08:27:18 AM
Dont get offended, i see turkish is your native language, can you ask same thing on turkish forum, because its hard to understand when you use translator tool.


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: ___justus_ on April 06, 2011, 11:13:57 AM
Dont get offended, i see turkish is your native language, can you ask same thing on turkish forum, because its hard to understand when you use translator tool.

well,but this problem would not be resolved so easy...
i was banned from my local before a few years because of my talkings about reality..but i am proud of it..

I already did not ask any questions in this topic,i was doing discussion...
but really i want to ask something to you now; yes,my english is not enough,it is ok but correctly say,it is so disgusting to explain something about? :)

because i would like to continue...


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: tiger on April 06, 2011, 16:53:14 PM
You can send me private message, i will answer best i can.


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: ___justus_ on April 06, 2011, 19:58:52 PM
thank u but this was not matter in personal...
I am discussing in general about game changes..if you want to speak to continue in personal then i can do it in personal too...
but really i have any questions to your personal message box,or some problems in personal,i havent...


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: tiger on April 07, 2011, 08:53:15 AM
Then say what you wish to say. :)


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: ___justus_ on April 15, 2011, 03:37:47 AM
actually i have to ask you a favor at that rate...
what you say about currently ranks? have you an idea?:)



Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: tiger on April 15, 2011, 09:28:44 AM
actually i have to ask you a favor at that rate...
what you say about currently ranks? have you an idea?:)


Sory, i dont watch NI so thorougly to have idea about it. And i dont play so i cant judge.


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: ___justus_ on April 17, 2011, 12:14:30 PM
Sory, i dont watch NI so thorougly to have idea about it. And i dont play so i cant judge.

really interesting thing occuring in this tournament...
someone watching from İOteam?

just i am speaking to imperia online;


i had all requests of the game ..
really i have all guilds,furthermore i am paying 10 credits also for big festivals in each one days..
and sometimes i cant resist that impose -i do instantly also of my constructions in hurry ...

i think i had only one fault in the beginning,i havent helper account to increase power of the enemy armies to get more war income or to harm to other competitors,or to win medals or to win military force in graphics...
really this is my unique fault by my obsession to fairplay...and really this business was an insult to character of the true warrior,in my opinion that business was an insult to my personality too...

i think i spend 200 credits from last era's prize and 440+110=550   = 750 credits...
and i have very little credits now,i have to buy again..

just someone can have an explanation of that ranks?

remember that that current first player was out of top 50 in last era..




if not,this tournament was completely joke of april Fool's Day?

if so really it never came funny to me...

really,i dont feel good...




Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: tiger on April 17, 2011, 12:51:46 PM
And whats the problem? That somebody have higher net then you? Thats not proof of anything. He/she just know to play better, invest resources better... Keep in mind that robbing forts eficiently is also big advantage, temple gives bonuses and resources every day(little luck factor), army compositions determine losses. Maybe he/she have more army, army gives 2x points for invested resources... Som einvestment pays a lot, some are actually not worth to do it.
Position in last era doesnt mean anything... this is V5, different rules, mechanics...
NI is watched and checked by admins in office every day, so dont worry about it.


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: SEN on April 17, 2011, 12:58:20 PM

It is very importen to get a secord account to do account-pushing. You gain 5-10% growth every day for the first week, sadly i didn't know that, so i only have my main account. Next era I will make second account to fix that problem.

Also i didn't see the 4 provinces rule in time, so I picked a wrong provinces, that one is on me   :head_hurts_kr:

Now i am in top 20, but i don't think i will be fighting for first place.

Also I have use around 400 credits. until now.


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: ___justus_ on April 17, 2011, 13:55:03 PM
And whats the problem? That somebody have higher net then you? Thats not proof of anything. He/she just know to play better, invest resources better... Keep in mind that robbing forts eficiently is also big advantage, temple gives bonuses and resources every day(little luck factor), army compositions determine losses. Maybe he/she have more army, army gives 2x points for invested resources... Som einvestment pays a lot, some are actually not worth to do it.
Position in last era doesnt mean anything... this is V5, different rules, mechanics...
NI is watched and checked by admins in office every day, so dont worry about it.

 :)
really i know that's all..yes this is my first in v5 but really that is not hard job to me to learn it quickly..
and now i know very well this version too..

but you thinking mistaken about capacity of the people...
if a player was out of top50 in another game,he/she cant so imposible thing in the other place..

i want to say that; white is white or red is red..
red never can be same of white...
you can add some colours to change it..
it can be like burgundy or like pink..
but it never be same of white...
can i explaining?

look,i will say about another thing..
when i was in imperia my first time,i think 5 years ago..
i did learn the game in one weak and i formed and alliance,
in my 2th week i teached the game to other old players in my formed alliance..
really i did very good jobs my first time in a game..
because capacity of the people is the same,never changes so much..
if it is %80,you can try to %85-90
but if it is %25 then you never can reach to %100!

now you talking about different game strategies of newest version to me?
thank u for explanations..
i have learned and just playing very well..
openly i tell you that your explanations was not come genuine to me...
just i am sorry...


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: Sheremetev on April 17, 2011, 14:43:30 PM
Having extra 20% military income is something that cannot be that easily neglected. I mean... it gives you a good boost in the start (first ten waves) and later it is also of great help. Especially when the attacks become serious and as long as you can stand up against them- at that time military income becomes really helpful to your economy.


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: nekodrugi on April 17, 2011, 19:18:15 PM
Having extra 20% military income is something that cannot be that easily neglected. I mean... it gives you a good boost in the start (first ten waves) and later it is also of great help. Especially when the attacks become serious and as long as you can stand up against them- at that time military income becomes really helpful to your economy.

Admins told me that's totally legitimate action and i immediately gave up playing IN.

Now i can see i was right. Even "best" IN players spending diamonds like crazy without cheating have trouble being in top 10. Winner is not determined by who is better than by who cheated early in the game  *xxx*

Only thing i can't understand is why other players don't complain about it. After all they spend money only to be beaten by people that also pay but cheat too

But IO would never admit that they made mistake. Worst of all i warn them at day one when i saw some players pushing their accounts with attacks. Of course, we players are stupid, they are smart and we usually don't know what we are speaking of (don't see big picture).


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: The_Templar on April 17, 2011, 22:17:54 PM
lol Nekro, I registered with the new NI but when I realised it was V5 I didnt bother pursuing it and left playing all realms instead (still check the chat as you can see  *hahaha*), Just reading this thread makes me believe I made the right choice, with everything else that IO got wrong in the last few years I cant believe my eyes when i see not onkly they engineered a version of NI that allows one account to 'assist' another (ends up being abused by cheats EVERY time they do that) but you say they even endorse it LOL

is it to late to see a return of the old NI version that to my knowledge accounts could in no way interact with each other and therefore I could see no way to cheat or even better the set price entry fee and all play equal as suggested above - I would love to see that  *ok*


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: sheridon on April 20, 2011, 15:44:54 PM
all of you are missing something here, in another post yovanna said that cheating is part of gameplay and strategy. cheating has become an accepted gameplay tactic. believe it or not 75% of the players cheat at some point, the sad thing is that they are all premium players, you hardly find, maybe one or two that cheat and arent premium, so in order not to lose the paying customers, cheating was forced to be allowed. thats what i can deduce from all of this. i noticed a few bugs in nomads invasion and instead of exploiting them i just quit, i can imagine that others have found them too. i wont report bugs anymore because of the attitude of certain people who read the posts and can actually do something aboiut them, you just end up getting banned for finding something...................


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: ___justus_ on April 21, 2011, 17:46:18 PM
No colonies. Because you cant send attacks.
Yes, nobody cant compete for main prize without diamonds. But 36 *10 + guilds are less then 500 diamonds for whole NI era if you wish to prove you are the best.



if a player's porpuse to be head of players in ranking,
then really we have to calculate again because if who wish to be best then exactly need to use all of opportunities..true?

then i will calculate again to think better realist of V5's premium plan...

first,we need 35x10=350 diamonds use to extras...
and need to 40x4= 120 diamonds to activate guilds...
and another opportunity in the game is festivals because is important..
10x35=350 diamonds for festivals...

at total we need 820 for one month but that costs not only for that unique tournament..
that is cost of imperia online too...if someone thinking about the summit,he have to all...
because a professionel thinks in details,if someone overcomes his details by economic force,
then either strategist's details and also strategist dies...

i am feeling that brain's death...


furthermore,we need too much diamonds at total to instantly built of our constructions...

to example if we dont,then we will loose either from populations or productions or also from army upkeep..etc..
then also this is an important opportunity..is correct?

then if someone was thinking to play it perfectly,at least perfectly use to opportunities in the game,
then he have to pay minumum 1000 to maximum 1800 diamonds in one month..
that is only for benefits of opprtunities in premium of the game,in nomad invasion,is same for imperia online too


i hope i was helpful to someones to think it again...




Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: The_Templar on April 21, 2011, 17:53:58 PM
WoW Justus, by your reckoning i just saved myself 1750 (1800-the 50 i put in when registering) diamonds when i decided that this round NI could poke it, feel much better now lol *ok*


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: Nebthe on April 22, 2011, 22:08:41 PM
these last attacks is way too strong I think, at least for middle ranks dudes like myself.
a quarter of the army is elite all of a sudden and as that wasn't enough you sent 4 attacks... unless nomads' researches are all down to 0, most guys have no chance at all against those, and even with 0 researches it's pretty hard to defend. *hmm*


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: ___justus_ on April 23, 2011, 06:42:23 AM
if need some extra money to some players who did play it like a fool like me till now,then i have to say about a bug in the game,i also noticed yet since from a few days i use...

i say for all competitors if who was completely stupid like me;
go to bank...you will discover,you will be always gainful because of 168(1x) hourly credits in a blitz version realm! and maximum interest isnt 125.000 golds..is 500k! (4X)
and dont care about game rules in "how to play" you can use also this bug,it also completely is free in the new version Nİ...

necessary 10-15 banking...
after that i say goodluck to you too...


Title: Re: Nomads Invasions Era 7 Official Discussion
Post by: Nebthe on April 23, 2011, 18:28:15 PM
oh, great! an accessible wave now that we have no armies to defend... reaaaaaally great...

are you sure you got right these attacks?? I bet the armies you're sending are no problem for top 40 players but impossible problem for the average players. shouldn't this game be more balanced? anyway, I hate you  *Angry*