Imperia Online International

sorry but I have to declare this to everibody.
During a war hiske attacked me when I was in vacation mode, this is the regulation " The vacation mod forbids all attacks towards your empire. If there is an attack that is already seeable from your empire" ( 1 our o less ). *bravo* *bravo* *bravo*
This is the report time " 2007-11-22 12:42:13 GAMEMASTER A battle was fought.Hiske attacked Milon...  "
I was in vacation mode from 10:45.
How you can see the time is much then 1 our.
what do you tell me about, Hiske?
without this points you would't won the war.
 people, think about it. *evil* *evil* *evil*

 if your in in war or any other time while being attacked you can be attack for 2 hours after you go into vacation mood ;)

milone, u little farm, u went out of the vacation for a few hours, she launched the attack, probably, then u went back into vacation. ofc she could attack u with ease.

i saw that because i was inspecting my neighbors who leave armies home... 

Why 2 ours?
This is the rule
" The vacation mod forbids all attacks towards your empire. If there is an attack that is already seeable from your empire, even if you activate the vacation mode the attack will be completed"
Only if you are seeable and you are seeable from 1 our and not 2 ours, my friend, read the rules carefully please.

You are right Milone, the vacation rules on the premium pages indicates one hour. It is wrong.

u must read with care too, it`s stated that, when u go to vacation, and there is already an attack going on, the attack works...

people who hide under the cover of vac mode during war should be more careful...

Sorry Sir but I was going in vacation mode at 10:45, verific it please and the attack was been at 12:42, I cannot see her becouse she wae at 2 our from me and the rule say that the attack is valid only when it is seeable.
The rule are the rule also for the moderator, sorry, I think so.

You are not able to read the rules, look, please in premium page and read the vacation mode, after you read it, you can replay.
I pay for play and if a rule are writhe, for me is like a contract, I pretend that everybody respect the rule.

yes, and if she launched the attack at 10.44, the attack still counts...

i also attacked one player like that, he went into vacation during my attack.

ur bravure got u into this mess.

i meant, read what other people say, also

i was going to attack u also, but u went to fast for me again in vac, while i was spying other targets...

The organizzation have to change the rule, but when the rule is this everyone have to respect the rule and the rule says ( I repeate ) the attack is valid only when it is seeable.
Do you are able to see any attack before 1 our?

i think that the rules are rules. if the rules are wrong, till whin the rule don't change, the rule tell 1 our.
we spend the money, and the rules are rules, if the moderator choose which rules must been respected and which no, this not regular. the moderator must been applicated, don't change the rules for necessity.

the rule doesn`t work in any case, not just in yours, and not just when the attacker are mods.... i agree that they should have changed that message in game, and avoid another useless discussion.
no one could have anticipated that u`re going to vacation mode...

i also robbed a player of money, ueito in r4 at 1 h 5 mins or smth like that, because he went in that moment into vac.

 

for her necessity

baned one talking about rules...

the rule wasn`t changed, it just didn`t work for a long time, and has nothing to do with mods. vac mode is also program governed, has nothing to do with mods. i agree that designer should have announced that, though...


actually, for mine necessity i needed that money from ueito to rebuilt my 90 k army  :D

I know, You defend hiske in every topic in this forum, but this time her position is undefendeable, sorry Sir.

k_mihai nobody tell that the rules not can changed. if the rule is wrong the rule must been change, but till when the rule don't change there are respected of all, moderators too. if the attack is moving by one moderator is many strange, because hiske know the rule, and if the rule is wrong, overwork this situation it isn't honest. the moderator must been the most correct player, or no?

I remember you that who use a program bug is a cheat, this is an other rule, sorry Sir.

I remember you that all people that know a program's bug and use it is a cheat, this is an other rule, sorry Sir.

ofc it is. it was 1. ur bad luck to go into vacation during an ongoing attack, 2. the bad thing that the rules wasn`t working, and not too many people knew (i found out by accident, attacking ueito)


u don`t understand my point. u know the thing about banking, which, in game description, says it earns u an interest if u have money stored on capital, and that u can pay the loan back before the deadline is reached? well, even if in game description says that, that rule doesn`t work, for all people, mods or not. it`s the same situation, the vac rule description is outdated, but no one changed it, which is very unfortunate.

the mod was correct, u, on the other hand, were not, otherwise, u wouldn`t have gone on the italian forum, to argue that u were innocent for ur ban... 


like using vacation mode to hide in wars?  u enter in vac mode on ur own choice, i don`t think Hiske spelled u to do that

i have banned. but i think that who had the guilts and don't banned, no regular. if one do a guilt and don't pay, it's simple to be clear, but the moderators are over all rules. it's strange, many strange.

like most the people who are banned, u claim to be victim of a conspiracy directed by mods, or admins...

k_mikay

hiske is a moderator that take advantage of bug of game. and you think that is regular?

boh?

k_mikay
i don't think that a victim of nobody. i don't tell nobody of this. i ask for if the moderator do irregularuty, they are not banned. the rules don't have value for the moderator??

You don't think anythink bad about hiske, also when the reality is evident.
She knew the bug and used it, easy.
I go in vacation mode when I want, when I have to leave, rule consent me it.
Rule don't consent cheating and a person that know a program's bug and use it, for me, is a cheat.
my be, for you,she is a good player, not for me, everibody use cheat strategy to win is not a god player is a cheater.

is not a bug, the description is wrong

look at the old forum too, u`ll see a huge amount of topics regarding vac mode...

the description of a rule especialy when I spend money is an absolute law.
But if you want to defend hiske, you can.
I say that she is a cheater, simply, she can win all the war, but remain a cheater.

a description is a description, not a rule. it doesn`t say, one should do smth, or shouldn`t do smth else, it`s supposed to describe, or represent an object. i agree that it should have been changed long time ago, and i also agree with the customer argument.

actually, i wouldn`t defend Hiske if i thought she did smth wrong (for example, i didn`t defend the Wildcats disbanding thing)

You make filosofy.
The description of a rule is the rule, I can agree or not a paymant respect the description of the rule.
If the description is wrong and I pay for it, it is a fraud.
Everibody use a fraudolent description of a rule and know it, is a cheater, becouse she use this wrong description with the intention to make profits.
This is the basis of international laws 

There are zillions of topics about online and offline times, there is pretty clear explanation why one can stay for more than 18 hours without having 6 hour break (so that one can adjust his 6 hour break to later hour than previous day - if you don't understand how important this thing is it's pointless to comment on this subject).

Think about it - if you could stay max 18 hour then you'll be forced to always have the same offline times, or to have offline time earlier - for example from 0:00 to 6:00 off /6:00 to 23:59 on ...because you'd be unable to stay more than 18 hours you'll be forced to log off at 23:59 and have the same time, or you could stay less than 18 and swithc block to earlier hours...but the next day you'll be forced to do the earlier block again, or to move it even earlier. The third possibility is to have 2 6 hour breaks for one day, just to be able to have your offline time from 1:00 to 7:00 ... For me all three options are unnecessary difficult, especially for non-zombified players. It's so so so so so much better to have the possibility to stay few hours more in order to adjust your offline time...it's good mostly for one's real life...not so much for IO gameplay, because to have constantly 23/6/23/6...is extremely hard to handle even if you're not working or going to school. You won't know when it's day and when it's night...trust me ;o I did it... it's not worth the efforts and it does not gives any superiority than having less online hours, surpising breaks...etc. It only exhaust human and leads to mistakes in army saves, forcing to have break at most active times when you'll get attacked for sure...etc ;p


and a bit more - not understaning something does not make it wrong. not putting to understand the rules of a game does not make the game defective. being kicked by players, who spent some time to read detailed explanations on specific subjects does not make them cheaters.

leila, sorry, but you are off topics

Yes, but since the entire topic is offtopic I think it's okay.
The vacation mode rule is known for ages. It's been discussed and surely will be again, because people are lazy and don't read boring forum topics about in-game stuff...instead they pay attention to useless spam threads. Or they don't open forum at all.
Of course manuals and explanations have many mistakes/are misleading/are outdated.... that's why one is even more obliged to look for changes in IO forum ;o it's likely that more informed players will take advantage from their knowledge, however this has nothing to do with cheating.  *stop*

btw think about something - how did Hiske know that you're going to activate vacation mode, so that she can decide to "abuse" this "bug"? Maybe you told her and she sent her troops, because she knew the bug. Or she sent her troops without knowing anything about your intention and it was her lucky time? I bet it was the latter...

Because I had a nice sleep I'm actually willing to explain what happened... ok... here we go... Milone is more than 2k away from me so it takes me a lot more than 2 hours to get to him (not so high carto...I like to sleep at night *pardon*)... I send the attack and some hours later Milone went into vacation mode... I was at work so didn't even notice it so I got a message on the forum from neb saying that Milone had gone into mode... my reply to neb: 'damn...' Because I seriously thought that when a player went into vacation mode all attacks to that player would be send home immediately (hey... don't blame me... I'm still a noob *pardon*)... so anyway; neb explained to me that the attack would be continued... and it did :)

now I'd like to say 2 things about this... first of all; I'll make sure the ingame vacation mode explanation will be changed because I agree that this is not very clear... Just know that it's impossible to tell when someone goes into vacation mode so it's impossible to 'use' this; so your accusations are entirely based on nothing... the ingame vacation mode explanation should be like this: The vacation mod forbids all attacks towards your empire. If there is an attack that is already seeable from sent to your empire, even if you activate the vacation mode the attack will be completed.

second of all... I find it really strange that now you guys lost the war and some of your members got banned you start to come to the forum to accuse others... The attack on Milone was last week... if you thought this was a bug or cheating; why didn't you report it last week? It's kinda strange that there are all kinds of weird accusations right now... I thought the war we fought was awesome; a very very hard war till the last hours and one of the nicest I fought this era... why spoil it with these kind of stupid accusations? I seriously don't get it!

wow, long argument.

IMO you both are right, The description of vacation mode is like a rule. So in the description he is right no attacks should have been completed, but since the description is wrong it was completed. I find it hard to believe that a MOD didn't know it was wrong, but you will claim ignorance is bliss, which is wrong since you are a MOD and SHOULD know this.

Nothing can really be done about it, other than changing the description and announcing it to everyone, so it's a level playing field.

when someone enters the vac mode, it can`t be attacked, that`s automatical. the problem was that he entered vac during an ongoing attack...

Oh, so you wanted what, Milone?? When Hiske found out that you're on vacation mode she should have came online and recall her attack?? She sent her attack before you entered the vacation mode so you should have sent her a message saying: "hey dear Hiske! I am planning to go on vacation mode 30 minutes from now on so there is no point in launching your attack to me!" Did you do that, my friend?? I don't think so, so you are the who did wrong here!! Now tell me: why didn't you announce Hiske about this?? Huh? Why??  *crazy*

It is fixed now in english version. Now It is written properly. Sorry for inconvenience

For everibody: Hiske and nebthe are in same alliance, and hiske and nebthe decided to continue the attack becouse they are moderators and know the wrong of vacation mode becouse read every forums, me not, it is a cheat for me and for everibody are honest people.


this is the right description and for me it is a rule and I, also, pay for this service.
 
easy, if you control, you can know that I joined this forum only iesterday.

Nebthe you have to be honest, please, Hiske said that sent you a message and you replay her to continue the attack becouse you know the wrong message of the vacation mode.
You prefer to win easy, you are a cheater

don't twist my words... and don't accuse people of cheating cause in this case that's really ridiculous.

Yes, Hiske sent me a message on the forum to keep an eye on you since she couldn't log in the game to watch her attack. I replied that you were on vacation mode and then she replied back that "Duck! My attack will be automatically recalled!" (not exactly with these words and yeah, i know that she used a bad word and she will be grounded for this; she will not go to a party this evening, I promise  *hihi*). Then I explained her that no attack on progress is automatically recalled when the target sets himself on vacation mode and I was even amazed about this since I have never heard anything like this before.

Now you be honest to me: did you want Hiske to log in the game and recall her attack because you set yourself on vacation mode??


PS: the description of vacation mode was wrong and it seems that no one noticed it; now it is corrected.

you are partizan, ofc.
It is non necessary to join the forum, I can play imperiaonline only after I readed the rule.
The forum is an area where the peopele speack about an argoment, it is not an area where the people decide the rules.
I repeat the rules are the rules for everibody, for me and for moderators ( hiske adn nebthe ).
Who decide to play and know the maleware of a action is a cheater, they win easy a war but they are cheaters, simply.
Why nobody proponed to reset that war and repeat it?
Becouse Uruk_hai ( Hiske, nebthe, desmestos and co. ) prefer to win easy and not to combact lealy

actually, is not a cheat, since that wasn`t a rule, only a bad description. reading forums would have been a wise decision...
and, btw, vacation mode wasn`t made so that people can cowardly hide during wars...


that`s hypocritical, because ur alliance had 3 members caught cheating, probably they also babysitted during that war

this is the prove that I saied right.
This answere is expecially for hiske and nebthe, from now you cannot win easy more.

Please answer to my question Milone, I answered yours.

I mean that ridiculous are you and nebthe in this affair, everione can read the entair questionn, for me you and nebthe ( and demestos for an other thing ) have deliberating atcuated this cheat strategy to win the war, already you don't will win it, dear hiske and you know it very well.
Don't make the virgin, not with me.

 :o :o :o

that's just mean... stupid dictator...  X)

oh, no, I don't pretend too much, not from you, I are saing only that you and hiske have deliberating make in act a strategy knoing that the vacancy mode had an inesact mode to work, thi, my friend, is not leal and you know it.

for me, it looks like an alliance with 3 baned players after the war can`t accept their defeat....

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