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http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_23/19578971_19582653_6870

anyone have a better one  *hmm*

When you say - Best Defence - do you imply ................ a win with minimum effort and lowest troops...............

Is this method not always dangerous.........where the margin between victory and defeat can be as little as one round.....and luck plays a large part....

.....as in many previous era's, in battle the nomad morale can sometimes survive down to 12 or 13.......*pardon*....due to large battle company size.......

I always try to defeat the nomad horde before round 7 of the field battle..............

.......it maximises the nomad losses, which gives more war income and ........keeps my own losses to a minimum...........less time under battle conditions

http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_23/19578971_19604279_6820

http://nomads.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_23/19578971_19578356_6826
The best of all.... *hihi*

My defence:
http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_23/19578971_19604336_6947
 *gamer*

*rose*

riftwar now? :D

Very impressive defence .................. *bravo* *bravo*

As low as 7............just how low can these nomads go...............and keep on fighting ........... *black_eye* *black_eye*

all very good defences  *Angry*  :)

I apologise to this person for taking his name in vain........as I have borrowed his posting........

I saw this battle report posted in the Bulgarian Forum.......and I think it takes the position of    *bravo* *bravo*  Best Defence   *bravo* *bravo*

http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_24/19579255_19001429_8231

I am impressed by all these defences........... so much so that I will experiment with the same technique for a few battles..........

I have held Pole Position for the last 3 days....... but I have now disbanded a large portion of my troops.........and will take a less aggressive defence stance...

What's the worst that can happen................... Aggggggghhhhhhh.................I might lose a live .......................... *hahaha* *hahaha*

The additional joy of beating the Nomads in the Field, as previously said...............also gets you a medal for Battle of the Day......

http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_24/19579255_19604279_8184

just that low: http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_2_4/19578908_19507418_15122  *hihi*

OMG......  -2 ............... so how can we have faith in the calculator..... *sos* *sos* *sos*....

omg... nobody can tell now that nomads have same soldiers as we have... I play Imperia over 2 years and I've seen such more first time. I've seen few bellow 10 (also in nomads) but in regular Imperia army flee ~30-35 morale. I can say only this: "I want same stuff for my soldiers"

was going to go for a smaller defence but didnt want to risk it to much *Angry*
http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_26/19577213_19582653_10942

I wanted to risk so much...  *freak*
http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_26/19577213_19578356_10928
but... in another way: 2 acounts.
http://nomads.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_26/19577213_19587214_10926
http://nomads.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_26/19577213_19607057_10927
it reduce the risk by 50%.  *hihi*

Your melee and armour must be at an advanced level...... to use so few troops............very impressed......

I erred on the side of caution and sent them the nomads to their doom at the end of round 5......

http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_26/19577213_19604279_10950

my level ar armour is 6 and malee 5 ... higher levels is bad in this battle... i have 34% chance to flee. *black_eye*

there was smth wrong in this battle today against flinstoun... i have the necessary researches for all heavy troops, but i still lost the battle... calculator said that i am a winner in 20/20 battles. and still, nomads won, with moral 33.. wtf

post the battle...
this in yours?
 http://nomads.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_27/19000011_19583996_12358

yep, this is it.... how did you find it??? XD

http://nomads.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/nomads_final.php?sort=P_NOMER&order=ASC&realm=1
click on flinstoun.
nomads have 7 range and military medicine and 2 melee and armor and morale 105... u have 4 fortification (low) and not enough archers.
enter data into the simulator to see that this is the correct result

ive been running the calculator trying to figure out the best defence for the coming wave

Spearmen - 12000
Archers - 4000
Swordsmen - 4000
Light Cavalry - 2000
Heavy archers - 2000                              

i was thinking of getting many swordmen  because they are very effective against the archers  and spearmen  which is coming in large portions .

but after experimenting with the calculator i realise that by getting a lot of swordmen ( 6000)  plus other troops  , it would been very expensive . But then i tried something *gamer* i realised  that only a small amount of my cavalry was flanked, so i decided to get them all flanked with a few more spearmen  and less swordmen.

and to my surprise i won with ease , i used only 2000 swordmen with 3000 calvalry - all flanked and stronger

this is the cheapest solution ive seen so far ( also take note that i had army left over from last defence  so i decided to take them in account when calculating ) :


spears       3000
h.spears     6000

h.archers    3000

sword:        1000
h.swords     1000

cavalry        3000                                  NETWORTH: 842,000 GOLD

this beats them with ease , i though i needed a lot of swords  because i saw a lot of spears and archers  , but you can simply get all your cavalry flanked  and they would be 50% stronger .  so at the end of the day its better to have a small amount of cavalry with all of them flanked  than to have a large amount in the centre , getting them flanked is cheaper  and they are stronger  ,   win, win situation  *rose*

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ?

i have also thought the same (even though the attack to me is a little bigger) the only thing that worries me is the amount of troops i have in the last round (even though this changes) but it goes down to as little as 100 without archers  *xxx*

my fortification was 7 ;P... and i use that old, offline calculator by Mony Dochev... i put that nomads have 7 range, 2 melee, 2 armor, 7 mil. med.... i have fortification 7, fort 5, 2400 archers and 400 cavalry inside... i have 7 melee, 7 range and 8 armor... try to calculate it, i just keep getting win win win win reports...

sorry they have 7/7/7/7 . *pardon*

hehe nevermind, its not important anymore anyway... :) i was just curious and wanted to find out what was i calculating wrong ;)

I am going for a small heavy division.....I have disbanded all my lights to assist heavy recruitment....am busy building big forts.. *hahaha*

Heavy Spearmen = 4000........Heavy Archers = 2000....Heavy Swordsmen = 5000..........Heavy Cavalry = 2000

Using levels 7,7,7,7 and 24,000 Nomads against 13,000 imperians......................  no probs.

This results in all heavy cavalry flanked and the nomads are all dead by round 15-16.......so no issues with morale...........

So here's hoping I don't need to send any         *sos* *sos* *sos*     ............. messages at the end.................... *freak*

*hmm*
you made a mistake... you demobilized easy army,  because heavy spearmen and swordsmen die anyway, with a heavy army you lose more points ... do a simulation... replaces heavy spearmen and swordsmen with the lighter.

If I replace my heavy spears and heavy swords with light.......... My troops are de-moralised and flee at round 17.......   I lose the battle......

I am using the IO in-house battle calculator.....................

oka... but you get the idea...is cheaper and lose less points. May only need to set configuration.

 *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha*

Well I have tried the minimum defence technique............. OMG......... that is nerve racking..... *heart* *heart* *crazy* *crazy*.....

................I came really really close to losing this one..........just won it by the smallest of margins.................... *hihi* *hihi* *hihi*

http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_28/19000010_19604279_13694

very nice  *ok*   wow you went to 23 morale

here is mine not the best but i won *hmm*

http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_28/19000010_19582653_13654

haha :D that was some luck :D :D

you are very very very lucky  *hahaha*
this is art  *rose*: http://nomads.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_28/19000010_19606989_13642
this is me: http://nomads.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_28/19000010_19578356_13644  *freak*

 *black_eye*............. I am sorry for your lost battle................... *black_eye*

Yes I was very lucky............. but the battle calculations seem to be funny this era...... this player had similar troops to mine....But his battle went very well and his morale did not suffer greatly like mine did ..................

http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_28/19000010_19604953_13707

Very puzzling............... requires indepth analysis.............when I have the spare time............. *gamer* *gamer* *gamer* *gamer*

Your heavies did not seem to be heavies in this battle...last 4 attacks show equal damage really...so either your damage/ attack research bonus suck or his is super strong...I have seen the "cohort" argument come up several times (armies get divided into cohorts and larger armies get more attacks vs. smaller armies)...could that be it?

puzzling for sure *hmm*

It all hinges on round 13 ................... for the 2 examples shown.......... they are fairly equal until then...........

In the other battle the Nomads give up and flee............. but against me they fight for another 5 rounds........... :rant: :rant: :rant: ............

.... and that is when the battle calculator and the size of the battle groups starts to have a major damage effect on my heavy cavalry.......poor souls..... *hahaha*

But a good battle exercise and a good piece of battle damage research was done................ *gamer* *gamer* *gamer*.....until the next pillage.......

These next 2 sieges from flinstoun will be easy to calculate..*hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha*.....5000+ Heavy Archers in a L6 fort...... [:-} [:-} [:-} [:-}....

No Contest ....................... Die Nomadic Horde...........on the barbed heads of my arrows......................... *black_eye* *black_eye* *black_eye*

this is the only player who managed to escape after the battle in profit ( rebuilt army lost from war income) and is ranked 55.
http://nomads.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_28/19000010_19597551_13705
 *rose*

We are there ... Brazil forward!

 *bear*

they dont even give up when banging thier heads against solid walls *hihi*
http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_29/19000011_19582653_15039

with what are you planning to defend now guys??? :) this wave requires very huge armies...

Now there's no way we have to go for slaughter.

Is the gentle way : PHALANX and a plain with forest.  *hihi*

you already have phalanxes???  *hihi*

I am going to darken the sky with arrows........to quickly dispatch the pointy stick people.........

...... then the   :hard:   heavy cavalry boys   :hard:   are going to have a gentle chat over some coffee with some lightweights............

Hopefully all will be over by round 10............ and then I can get back to resourcing stone to build my L7 forts.................. *freak* *freak* *freak* *hihi* *hihi* *hihi*

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in nomads,
we shall fight on the seas and oceans,
we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender

...................Ooooooh YES...........


Opps .............wrong Churchill.................... *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha*

Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your spears;
I come to bury nomads, not to praise them.
The evil that nomads do lives after them;
The good is often buried with their bones;
So let it be with dead pillaging nomads.


Could also do with borrowing some heavy swords and cavalry................ if available..................... *hihi* *hihi* *hihi*

 *hihi*

WoW *SIGH*

As predicted............... no further than round 10............. *stop* *stop* *stop*

http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_30/19529511_19604279_16857
http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_30/19529511_19604279_16858

 *black_eye* *black_eye* *black_eye* *black_eye*

http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_30/19529511_19582653_16785
http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_30/19529511_19582653_16786

http://nomads.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_30/19529511_19578356_16779
http://nomads.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_9_30/19529511_19578356_16780
nice and clean.  *gamer*
but many people choose to defend only the secondary province....or have not had enough production to occur or is more efficient so... *hmm*
http://nomads.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/nomads_stats_bitki.php?d_id=19529511&realm=1

good hunting mate and good luck to all ..be cool.. [:-}

cheers m8  *ok*

An easy process.............. just hide the archers behind a wall...................and death to the nomadic horde...........

http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_10_2/19000009_19604279_18639
http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_10_2/19000009_19604279_18638

http://nomads.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_10_2/19000009_19582653_18565

  T_T

Another successful day at the office...................... [:-} [:-} [:-}

http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_10_3/19000006_19604279_20359
http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_10_3/19000006_19604279_20360

http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_10_3/19000006_19582653_20291

http://statika.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_10_4/19626960_19582653_22063

Disaster strikes.................. a small band of nomadic special forces infiltrated the grounds of my ISP ........... and with 15 minutes to .........

just as I was preparing to deploy my many troops in defence..... :evil3:....SLASH........ :evil3: .......my connection to NI is lost...... and repairs are not complete until it is too late................. *Angry* *Angry*.............and thus my attempt to be undeated this era is gone...............good luck to all those that are still in with a fighting chance......... *gamer* *gamer*...

unlucky m8 but before this is over i am sure most of us will loss a life or 2 *black_eye*

maybe now ill get a bloody medal grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

http://nomads.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/_addons/dokladi/?path=bitki/nomads_01/2010_10_17/19000009_19582653_47301