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Because the current calculator does not support level 8 fortress players have to simulate it with level 7 fortress and increased fortification level.

Lvl.8 fort = Lvl.7 fort with 2*suspected fortification level of enemy + extra 10 fortification levels; not just adding 10 or 12 levels of fortification, cause you'll get extremely wrong results and possibly lose your army.

example - lvl.8 with 15 fortification = lvl7 with 40 fortification (10 + 2*15)

note that your enemy must have at least 12 levels of fortification to build lvl8 forst, so the lowest possible value for fortification is 34 (10 + 2*12).

I hope it would be useful for someone...

thx :) very good idea  *bear*

thank you. *rose*

good work  *cool*

Then why don't you give me karma  *kissgirl*

I have given yesterday night...i swear  :) I have written but it was canceled...

ok, ok, here it goes, you deserved it  ;)

done also  *bear*

i would, but i already gave it 2 u 2day.. *rose*

Nice tip. + Karma, for u my dear *rose*

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i was downloading the calculator
and after i was done and i was using it
i clicked fight battle
and there was an error
something like a line from the program was missing or something
So i was wondering if the calculator could be fixed

I dont have a problem with the calculator. It works fine for me!!

How about for level 9 fortress?  ???

dahhh

o thanks ;]

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I play now realm 4. I have to attack one enemy province. When I write that province have 10.000 people,then calculator report that attcker will win! But when I only change population from 10.000 to 7.000,calculator report that defender will win!
How is that possible?
I still think,that when province have larger population it is harder to conquer.

Probably you win with morale less than 50. If your morale is less than 50 then your army may fled (deeper under 50, bigger chances to fled). And in these cases sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, it's random :D

the number of population isn't relevant for battles, probably ur moral will be under 50, so there's a chance that u will win and also a chance that u will loose, try it again several times with 10k pop, and u'll see

 *Angry* We definitely need a new calculator
 *Angry* *Angry*

Please give us one for multiple OS en suitable for a lvl8...

i am only begging for more then a year now  *tired*

An online calculator will be perfect.
No os problem will be

But how about the number of units (4x the garrisson)that can attack the fortress walls? In the calculator, it will be the number for a F7, but with F8 u can let 4x more guardians, and phalanxes attack the walls.

When i use calculator i do about 10 simulations, if i win all or 9 i attack, if gives me random wins i don't attack.
Maybe if you do a few simulation with 10.000 people you will have random wins like with 7000 people.

do the math alone *pardon*

do we have level 9 fortress in the game?...   *hihi**hahaha*

go tohttp://www4.imperiaonline.org/forums/int/index.php?topic=9509.msg78344#msg78344 (http://www4.imperiaonline.org/forums/int/index.php?topic=9509.msg78344#msg78344) and join world war 3!

vote for your country to win!!

can someone pls ban this dude? :D

Yeah. Is he crazy or what. He is everywhere.

hope will be banned in the morning...

At first i thought it was a script... but now i see is just a maniac...  *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha*

Hit points for a level 8 fortress are double that of level 7.  So, if you run the battle calculator at level 7 and reduce all the army(both sides) and siege weapon numbers to half of what will actually be fighting, the final morale number and win/loss result should accurately reflect the result of an attack on a level 8 fortress.  I ran calcs on lvl 6 this way and then doubled the armies for lvl 7 to test the idea and it seemed to work. 

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Thnx Very Much ...
Very good Idea !

hmmm sorry but i didn't understand well the instructions.. well please CORRECT me if im wrong.. to start building lvl 8 fort the enemy need to have lvl 12 of fortification.. and the formula for lvl 8 fort is lvl 8 fort = +15fortifications??.. so im going to put into the calculator a lvl 7 fort w/ 12+15= 27 lvl of fortification??.. Is that right?? can someone tell me if it is right.. gee thnx!!!  :head_hurts_kr:  *rose*

nope. you double the fortification lvl of attacker.  so if he have 12 fortification you take 2*12 + 10 lvls because fort 8 = 34

What's so hard? *freak*

spammer lol..  *pardon*

oh gee thnx.. so example if the enemy has lvl 13 of fortification so it is calculated as 2*13 + 10 lvl because of fort 8 = 36??.. Then im gonna put in the battle calculator Fortress lvl 7 and lvl 36 of fortification??.. thanks.. :))

yes. :)

Hi  The calculator that I download from my site is not correct.  I cannot enter the number of siege weapons within the battle.

Where can I get the correct or latest version ??

Maribu

look at it again...calculator 2 is for pillages and field battles and calculator 1 is for sieges. Only in calculator 1 you can put siege weapons

and one for atacking gold mines  :hard: *hihi*

No,

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adding fortification as 10+2x is wrong because 51.2k guards can hit(~4million dmg per round) ,but f7 with increased walls can be hit by only 25.6k guards(~2m dmg) ,so u need to add additional 333 trebuchets .And because those added 333 trebs fire from round 1 ,and they replace guards that hit from round 3 ,we added 4 millions fixed dmg in rounds 1 and 2 and that should be compensated.So add 4 fortification levels which is 4423680 million hp for 7 on mountain which we put in our calc.
So dividing with 2 is better option IMO,but u can also:
fortification=(realFortification*2)+10+4
additional troops =333 trebs
premises:full guardian power at all times hits wall,attacker have 52k guards at middle of fortress siege.

their is simple one for fort 8 if you have the max 51.6K guardians still hitting against the forteresss after the field battle. just divide the number of siege by 2 on a fort 7 with actual fortification without any other change. you get it right directly(except for lost that don't get the siege taken out in the gold value of the lost). if the number of guardians is not that much you can divide all armies by 2 as suggested. in this case army and point lost need to be double to fit actual value.

*ok*

yeah

if it were to exist, it would be something like lvl 7 fortress with 4*fortification level + 30 fortification...
so someone with lvl 9 and 15 forti would have lvl 7 fort with 90 fortification? (I'm too tired to take my calculator and check if I did this right...)

not to mention time it would be needed to build  *freak* + time for fort 8 and fort 7.waste of money if you ask me :) rather buy army and crash someone

level 8 slows down a lot of would be attackers.  You MUST bring trebs to take a level 8 in the mountains unless your honor level is absolutely insane.  Level 7, even boxed, can be done with guardians alone if there are no soldiers defending.  However, with stone trading at 5 in a long realm, repairing that thing is a female dog. 

level 8 fortress is the last thing to do in a province, so if your level fortress 8 got destroyed you dont need to repair it anyway since you dont need to build any on that province?

to calculate LvL 8 fortress divide by 2 "JUST THE  TREBUCHETS"  and use the actual fortification LvL  >>>NOT 2X+10

and.... if you are online more than 15 hours per day...
it will be your biggest mistake not to build LvL 8 fortresses to "all" of your proviences (cuz of upkeep)

just this day I attacked Level 7 fort and this is part of the result
LEVEL 7 FORT
(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9192/realmpic.jpg)

But before the impact I made a calculation and make  it Level  8 fort with level 13 fortification
LEVEL 8 FORT & 13 fortification
(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4171/realmpic2.jpg)

http://www40a.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game_v4a/_addons/dokladi/?path=webcalc/9/2010_12_19/8264331_12015060

Can somebody compare & explain to me. what happened in round 3 and so on for level 7 & level 8 fort?

Why is my guardians in level 8 fort double the attack as compared to level 7 fort?
Why is also my trebs make a lot of damage in fort 8 compared to Fort 7?

ah sorry bad calculation, 5006 RAMS should be light Cavalry... deleted question # 3

Only part of your guardians fight in fortress siege and damage walls. Number of units damaging walls is equal 4 * base capacity(without mil architecture bonus).
Fort lvl   base capacity
Fort 1 = 100 *4
Fort 2 = 200 *4 ...
Fort 7 = 6400 * 4 = 25600
Fort 8 = 12800 *4 = 51200
So in fort 7 maximum number of units damaging walls is 25600, in fort 8 - 51200. Number of units damaging walls is equal 4 * base capacity(without mil architecture bonus).

thanks for the answer.

U put guardians in enemy fort in calculator,but he actually had archers  *pardon*

I didnt noticed that... during calculations.. its another mistake from me.. *sos* *sos* *sos* *sos*

Just a Clarification on the Rule == > Number of Units damaging the wall is equal to 4 multiplied by Base capacity (without bonus).   The wall attackers is 3 kinds, Guardians/Phalanx  and Siege Weapons.  Let us say I send 3000 Trebs with 100,000 Guardians and 100,000 Phalanx, 100,000 Paladims and 25,000 Elite Archers.   Question (1) is the siege weapon included in the base capacity limitation? -  that is - will it be deducted from the 51200 limit, thus leaving the guardians/phalanx to only 48,200.   Question No. (2)  Who will attack first in the 3rd Round - Phalanx or Guardians since both exceeds the 51200 limit, will it be all Guardians or will it be all Phalanx or will it be both? Thank you and Merry Christmas

V4a rules or older(R1-R7x)
Siege weapons are not counted in that base attacking capacity. So 51200 of your units hits the walls.
The order is swordmen, then spearmens, from heaviest to weakest. So guards will fill those places(unit with most damage). If you dont have enough of guards, then phalanx, then heavy swords, then heavy spears, light swords, light spears.

Yeah, more melee troops hit the walls when u attack lvl 8 fort, then when u attack lvl 7 fort...