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IO - Classic and Version 4 Realms => Realm 9 => Topic started by: faceless_void on August 05, 2010, 13:52:38 PM



Title: credit or cheat??
Post by: faceless_void on August 05, 2010, 13:52:38 PM
hello i have something to know about the other.. i don't know if he/she is prof. player.. i notice about here in realm 9 who have in first place got a no.1 rank and he complete centra 4. without making attack.. are he/she use credit?? or cheat?? also there are one player i notice who always been attacked by 3 of my ally,, but with in 3 minute.. he easely recover and look after 3 to 5 minutes.. it repair again.. :o


Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: tiger on August 05, 2010, 13:58:12 PM
Why would attacking be needed for centralization 4. If you are not so active, dont have time to search goldmines whole day, its more profitable to invest in economy - cenralization, medicine, forts, granaries... to grow faster then guys who attack, pay hiring expenses, upkeep, lose army in battles...
About attacked guy. maybe he hve high storage to keep stones in there or resources in other provinces or low lvl fort cheap to repair... its hard to tell whats the reason just from what you told.


Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: faceless_void on August 05, 2010, 14:14:31 PM
Why would attacking be needed for centralization 4. If you are not so active, dont have time to search goldmines whole day, its more profitable to invest in economy - cenralization, medicine, forts, granaries... to grow faster then guys who attack, pay hiring expenses, upkeep, lose army in battles...
About attacked guy. maybe he hve high storage to keep stones in there or resources in other provinces or low lvl fort cheap to repair... its hard to tell whats the reason just from what you told.

im active dude.. so that i notice it... im not a prof player to do that who waiting an hours of upkeep.. coz i didnt do it.. i have something question if you know then when did he get a gold and resources for a few week to complete it without making attack?? although he got attacked by other.. explain me..


Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: Kopator on August 05, 2010, 16:02:53 PM
im active dude.. so that i notice it... im not a prof player to do that who waiting an hours of upkeep.. coz i didnt do it.. i have something question if you know then when did he get a gold and resources for a few week to complete it without making attack?? although he got attacked by other.. explain me..

Are you sure that the players who attacked this guy got any gold from their attacks ?


Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: faceless_void on August 05, 2010, 16:38:52 PM
Are you sure that the players who attacked this guy got any gold from their attacks ?


yeah... even he not been attack by players.. so hows it work to complete in with in 2 weeks.. its credit can full fill its needs?? :o :o :o


Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: Foxrider on August 05, 2010, 16:50:30 PM
u talk about merc ? i think he just good player with credits....*pardon*
 
well nothing hard....i try once..use 1 10 hours bonus...
(http://i.imagehost.org/0691/1qwe.jpg) (http://i.imagehost.org/view/0691/1qwe)
all ppl in resources...in cent 3 u will need bank lvl 2-3...and take medium credit....


Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: tiger on August 05, 2010, 17:02:05 PM
I really dont see anything wrong in person having 5 provinces after 28 days of play. It easily done even earlier.


Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: faceless_void on August 05, 2010, 17:10:00 PM
I really dont see anything wrong in person having 5 provinces after 28 days of play. It easily done even earlier.


 :o really?? by using credit?? okay i see... how about does got enormous  losses who have 4 province now even they are always been attack,,( pillage and fortress siege.). try to look about battal..


Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: Kopator on August 05, 2010, 18:08:25 PM
u talk about merc ? i think he just good player with credits....*pardon*
 
well nothing hard....i try once..use 1 10 hours bonus...
(http://i.imagehost.org/0691/1qwe.jpg) (http://i.imagehost.org/view/0691/1qwe)
all ppl in resources...in cent 3 u will need bank lvl 2-3...and take medium credit....

 *hahaha* this picture of your acc is a *db* great *db* input to this conversation  *hahaha*
it will only add some side to faceless_void ....
 *freak*


Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: tiger on August 05, 2010, 19:04:30 PM
http://www29.imperiaonline.org/imperia/game/top20.php?tip=&c=&sort=2&realm=9
There are players with more points then battal... they also didnt attack anybody. Using credits, especially by guys who know how to play, can make you grow really fast. Pillages or attacking doesnt hurt so much if you hide resources and know what you are doing.
If they didnt attack anybody, they couldnt transfer resources anyway, so i dont find it suspicious.
And you can save resources for some time, then spend them. He could also took loan...


Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: fragmaster on August 05, 2010, 19:10:14 PM
 *freak* and while u make everything they make exclusively medicine+centrals+granaries


Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: steveempire on August 05, 2010, 19:58:37 PM
With facebook production bonus, credit bonus and online artilliary bonus, you can have 14 hours of production all at the same time.  Add to that a loan, and you have endless possibilities for growth...actual production is a bonus, but if it is stolen, its not a big deal.  I am guessing he has both guilds running at 5 to 10X already as well.  Do you have your guilds running?

In the early game, population growth is key to economy...so he probably produces much more than you.  Look at his extra provinces for large negative balances - that will point to a loan.



Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: faceless_void on August 06, 2010, 02:28:55 AM
 *bravo* *bravo* *bravo* okay you guys i understand..haha. maybe you guys are also playing with credit... unlike me coz im not use it everytime or everyday. coz im not a rich to buy credit to use 10 hrs production every 24 hrs......and maybe you guys can't play without credit...  :D


Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: fragmaster on August 06, 2010, 02:36:03 AM
 *freak* i was no1 nw 2 years ago with total 100 credits in r5  *freak* (insert suprised "ops im bragging" face here  *hahaha* )


Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: faceless_void on August 06, 2010, 03:32:16 AM
*freak* i was no1 nw 2 years ago with total 100 credits in r5  *freak* (insert suprised "ops im bragging" face here  *hahaha* )


 *bravo*okay... okay.. creditmaster... *hahaha* like merc here in realm 9.. a credit user that make go to top without attack.. not like the other who trying hard to conquer there neighbor,, make pillage or siege to steal there golds...  *hmm*  wow men 2 yrs huh??


Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: fragmaster on August 06, 2010, 04:05:36 AM
fighting simply doesnt pay-off coz of most players lack of patience on start and go play military.Starting prices become high,along with  quick start jump,which is ultimative goal for first part of era (quick start is important coz of exponential growth of population under 100k,giving invulnerabilities like unbeatable fort,no need to dump,u can skip only to big and overally better researches )  .U are trying to reach perma-research phase aka no wasted research time.For being on top is ultimate priority to always research ,as scientist ,have good univ asap ,etc..As realm progress,army profiting becomes harder and harder,until it reaches point of impossibility.Reason is magic circle of increasing army for making it able to make profit,leading to bigger upkeep with hiperbolic curve of profit as army grow.Gold will be possesed only by those who arent afraid of anyone,and as u kill more and more players,they wont keep gold in base.Leaving only top players in such position,and they will raise white flag.So in mid u can still relay on split attacks ,but its really advanced play to time them on 5th offline hour.Invested eco is always profitable,with all those dodgy mechanisms of keeping gold not plundered.Sooner or later ull reach resource saturation phase,meaning everybody can research full speed,but warriors will be always behind in that.And since (pro) farmers dont need honor,it is possible ull simply never catch them offguard in several oportunities where u have enaugh army to  kill them in their box with high fort.Warrior has very hard job in killing farmer of same game expirience.And being top nw fighter that can kill and actually kill all players in realm ,is greatest achievement player can reach in this game,and i can tell u ,that is veeery hard equation ,and requires a lot of brainstorming,advance coining strategies ,etc...Simply starting from  day 4 attacking players and being on top all the time,is very rarely seen.Those lategame fighters usually started at month x with fighting,but they almost all wore down with nw in 2-3 months of constant fighting.If realms were more populated(all active players in smaller number of realms),it would bring more balance im sure.

now,clearing up that eco is more profitable ,its not funniest game way ,which is point of game.To be funny.right ? *freak*



Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: faceless_void on August 06, 2010, 05:11:35 AM
 *hmm* *hmm* *hmm* *hmm* i don't know coz im noob until now... maybe your right creditmaster...can i have a question to you.. if its okay?? do you play  without credit??  *SMOKE* try to be a warrior.. like me... im g00d_oOo in realm 9... im trying hard to attack my neighbor in order to get a gold..   *hmm* *hmm*


Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: Foxrider on August 06, 2010, 13:34:23 PM
*hahaha* this picture of your acc is a *db* great *db* input to this conversation  *hahaha*
it will only add some side to faceless_void ....
 *freak*

missed a small detail. :D


Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: faceless_void on August 06, 2010, 14:03:38 PM
 *xxx* *xxx*  *xxx* i really don't know.. *sos* *sos* *sos* *sos*


Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: fragmaster on August 07, 2010, 02:30:45 AM
yes but there is timing problem in that thinking .game is made that way in v4a, that u are in first 2 months always ahead if u build fort fort fort,while someone else builds sword sword sword.If u have expirience about build order (played few IO realms high point rankings),ur fort is invulnerable all the time.And proportion is that he probably dont have carry capacity to take all ur gold . For example if im farmer and i have F5 and 500 archers and 1800 light cavalry in fort,along with 50 archers in front of plains ,tell me what army u need to conquer me.


Title: Re: credit or cheat??
Post by: faceless_void on August 07, 2010, 09:27:26 AM
maybe... there are more reason.. but if you dont hire sword sword sword... and you are building fort fort fort.. when you are under attack? or else they attacked you at time of your rest.. so when do you get a stone to arrange fort fort fort..?? if you don't have a credit.. then still waiting for another resource??