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Title: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: PACO_666 on September 17, 2009, 14:59:09 PM
NOW EVEN IF YOU TYPE THE WHOLE GOLDMINE NAME, IT DOESNT SHOW UP, AND THE PAGE GETS STUCKED!!!!!! ONLY 2 MONTH FOR THE END OF THE REALM ONLY WAY TO GET GOLD THAT I LEARNED FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE REALM WAS MINING :rant:
SO NOW IF I DONT HAVE THOSE 17 PROVINCES AND IM NOT A FARMER IM NOT ABLE TO BUILD MORE SOLDIERS AND SUPPORT MY UPKEEP AT THE SAME TIME! :rant:
W.....T.....F


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 17, 2009, 15:05:45 PM
then you should start attack active players. in this game is possible to attack active players not only goldmines. youi only cant take over his empire


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: PACO_666 on September 17, 2009, 15:09:14 PM
then you should start attack active players. in this game is possible to attack active players not only goldmines. youi only cant take over his empire
i am man, our alliance is having 2 wars, but distance is a factor, some 6 hour mission ( wich is very normal in war time ) take alot of upkeep, got to make at least 4 goldmines attacks per day ( usually i make 27 attacks )....
cmon man i cant keep jus crushing my army on other players in my 2x range, at this point of the realm there is only vigiliant and strong player, and goldmines
and i didnt get that " you cant take his empire "..... are you sure? wanna see my attacks from wars???? PLEASE DONT SOUND LIKE ALL I DO IS MINING. I HAVE AN ARMY THAT I DESTROY OTHER PLAYERS WITH, AND FOR THIS ARMY TO GO ON MISSION, I  NEED UPKEEP, AND FOR UPKEEP I NEED GOLD MINES, BECAUSE THE RATE OF THE GOLD PRODUCTION REALLY SUCK :rant:


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: rimini on September 17, 2009, 15:11:06 PM
I can't search at all  players by name: active and goldmines !!! You are sneering at us


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: rimini on September 17, 2009, 15:16:36 PM
Next step: remove "search by name" function  *bravo*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 17, 2009, 15:18:42 PM
there is problem with players searching on few realms:40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 79, 80. all should be ok till evening


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: PACO_666 on September 17, 2009, 15:20:42 PM
there is problem with players searching on few realms:40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 79, 80. all should be ok till evening
ok thanks for the tip... im on realm 56 by the way....


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: PACO_666 on September 17, 2009, 15:23:59 PM
THE SPYING PAGE IS A SOLUTION BUT TAKES FOREVER TO RUMOUR EACH PROVINCE,
gimme karma for the tip, if not me, you would be selling iron now *freak*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: rimini on September 17, 2009, 15:26:16 PM
I play in 25th Realm and I buy credits before your every day changes. Owners- you are realy thieves, I'd not buy credits if I'd know you will change rules every day


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Mayhem on September 17, 2009, 15:33:11 PM
Realm 50 you can not search at all, less than 2 months till realm is over and all these changes.
Game needs to be put on pause till you get this fixed...........
By now removing the search function as you have for goldmines you favor those who have farmed all realm long building provinces.
Which by coincidence is mainly well we all know who the players are, are we seeing a little one sided help here and favoritism, by changing all of this. Now those who went fighting and not farming can no longer sustain their armies with gold runs, while the farmer can sell his resources from having colonized all their provinces to maintain their army. This is playing favoritism on a grand scale to farmers, they can send an attack and if it comes back empty they can sell resources to cover it. However the warrior is now in deep trouble if his target moves and will go negative and his army will be stuck, leaving them open for attack by those that farmed all realm long.
I have spent money on this game all realm long to play this, needless to say you are cutting off your income by these drastic changes. Yes you may have what money I have spent already, but it will be a cold day in hell before you get another penny out of me on this game for the changes you have made. Check your logs you will see how much I have spent. You just kissed it good bye along with quite a few others that will no longer be playing this.

NOT A Satisfied Customer........... :rant:


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 17, 2009, 15:34:51 PM
programmers can let you search goldmines like before and let you lose army cause server lags or block players search by a_. they chose block searching


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: blackdeath on September 17, 2009, 16:12:17 PM
this is a good move i must admit, but one problem, you guys need to lock the market when a player is under attack, this will at least guarantee army upkeep. i have no economy at all how will i survive???? by farming???? forget that shit................ LOCK THE MARKET


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 17:35:03 PM
KRUM, you say this was intended from the beginning, but it has been so for ever...  :hmmm: let me think a bit...  :hmmm: there's something wrong with what you say, don't you think so?


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: svizcy on September 17, 2009, 17:36:24 PM
programmers can let you search goldmines like before and let you lose army cause server lags or block players search by a_. they chose block searching

This...is if i summ everything up and say with one word = Bullshit=
This is a browser game not call of duty for craing out loud!!!

You can't just do this...look it's lagg, k let just block search. Customers demmand gold coines, do u understand this? There are more people that want gold mines than those who don't, so where is the problem?
If serwer is coussing lagg buy better serwer or repair it. You were running a serwer maintainance a month ago...what did you maintain if the lagg is still there?
Removing the search is like closing your eyes from real problem and hope it will go avay. *crazy*

good day, svizcy


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 17:55:24 PM
As I said...if this keeps this way, 80% of players will just quit...we have our lists and will keep playing till the end of eras, but no one will be stupid enough to start a new era on this terms...


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 17, 2009, 18:03:02 PM
This...is if i summ everything up and say with one word = Bullshit=
This is a browser game not call of duty for craing out loud!!!

You can't just do this...look it's lagg, k let just block search. Customers demmand gold coines, do u understand this? There are more people that want gold mines than those who don't, so where is the problem?
If serwer is coussing lagg buy better serwer or repair it. You were running a serwer maintainance a month ago...what did you maintain if the lagg is still there?
Removing the search is like closing your eyes from real problem and hope it will go avay. *crazy*

good day, svizcy

real problem is that is war strategy game and you want make sims from this game. go play travian then you even can capture enemy imperium


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 18:14:34 PM
real problem is that is war strategy game and you want make sims from this game. go play travian then you even can capture enemy imperium

Stop that shit che, you know we're right...


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Realmaker on September 17, 2009, 18:17:55 PM
real problem is that is war strategy game and you want make sims from this game. go play travian then you even can capture enemy imperium

who are you to tell us what to play and how to play it? that little green girly tag under your name doesn't make you and expert. I've beaten players like you many times over and made gold mines. first try to learn how to play this game and keep your head above the water then come join the realm we play in and see how many hours you survive before you become a gold mine.


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 18:19:26 PM
who are you to tell us what to play and how to play it? that little green girly tag under your name doesn't make you and expert. I've beaten players like you many times over and made gold mines. first try to learn how to play this game and keep your head above the water then come join the realm we play in and see how many hours you survive before you become a gold mine.
*hahaha* *freak* *freak*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: svizcy on September 17, 2009, 18:22:22 PM
real problem is that is war strategy game and you want make sims from this game. go play travian then you even can capture enemy imperium

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, do you?


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 17, 2009, 18:23:23 PM
Stop that shit che, you know we're right...
for you this is shit, for me not. problem is that players have possibilities to attack goldmines without range limit and cause that players chose to attack goldmines which have 10, 100, 1000x less points than they have. this is imperia online not necropolia online or goldmines online


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 18:23:39 PM
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, do you?

nope, he hasn't got a clue...  *HI*
for you this is shit, for me not. problem is that players have possibilities to attack goldmines without range limit and cause that players chose to attack goldmines which have 10, 100, 1000x less points than they have. this is imperia online not necropolia online or goldmines online

you see, I'm right...  *freak*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Realmaker on September 17, 2009, 18:26:53 PM
nope, he hasn't got a clue...  *HI*
you see, I'm right...  *freak*


I suggest Imperia team makes up a game with Barbies for him to play with...  *hahaha*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 18:29:10 PM
I suggest Imperia team makes up a game with Barbies for him to play with...  *hahaha*

I want a Kent....someone has to wear the pants...  *freak*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Realmaker on September 17, 2009, 18:32:45 PM
I want a Kent....someone has to wear the pants...  *freak*

if you wear the pants then there would be alot of domestic dispute calls to the IO Police... considering you can't handle the dumb and clueless talk considering who would be wearing the panties :)))))))))))  *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: fragmaster on September 17, 2009, 18:33:10 PM
for you this is shit, for me not. problem is that players have possibilities to attack goldmines without range limit and cause that players chose to attack goldmines which have 10, 100, 1000x less points than they have. this is imperia online not necropolia online or goldmines online

maybe  u all dont like what che says,because it ruins ur COMBO or smthing  ,but i can tell u this : he understands this game better then most of us here , he knows math well ,he made a lot of calculators ,and he knows stuff that most of u dont .

Players want to be strong with minimum possible online time ,which i can understand ,i also understand that everyone has a job etc...

but , dont u see that this kind of rule will make all players lose resources/army much more offten ,and realms will gain dynamic of classic realms (10x goldmine rule is much better for those who never played it ) .

Only bad thing is that changes happen in middle of realm ,making a lot of disbalance depending of current account orientation and size.


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 18:34:50 PM
if you wear the pants then there would be alot of domestic dispute calls to the IO Police... considering you can't handle the dumb and clueless talk considering who would be wearing the panties :)))))))))))  *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha*

panties...  *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Realmaker on September 17, 2009, 18:37:27 PM
panties...  *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha*

by the way... i am a private dick... and for those that can't understand... private dick means private investigator...   *hihi* *hihi* *hihi*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 18:37:59 PM
maybe  u all dont like what che says,because it ruins ur COMBO or smthing  ,but i can tell u this : he understands this game better then most of us here , he knows math well ,he made a lot of calculators ,and he knows stuff that most of u dont .

Players want to be strong with minimum possible online time ,which i can understand ,i also understand that everyone has a job etc...

but , dont u see that this kind of rule will make all players lose resources/army much more offten ,and realms will gain dynamic of classic realms (10x goldmine rule is much better for those who never played it ) .

Only bad thing is that changes happen in middle of realm ,making a lot of disbalance depending of current account orientation and size.


finally something I can agree with you...changes in the middle of realm are, I must say, moronic!!! admins totally disrespect their customers by it!!!


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Realmaker on September 17, 2009, 18:44:32 PM
maybe  u all dont like what che says,because it ruins ur COMBO or smthing  ,but i can tell u this : he understands this game better then most of us here , he knows math well ,he made a lot of calculators ,and he knows stuff that most of u dont .

Players want to be strong with minimum possible online time ,which i can understand ,i also understand that everyone has a job etc...

but , dont u see that this kind of rule will make all players lose resources/army much more offten ,and realms will gain dynamic of classic realms (10x goldmine rule is much better for those who never played it ) .

Only bad thing is that changes happen in middle of realm ,making a lot of disbalance depending of current account orientation and size.



Fragmaster... making calculators very easy... any educated person who's been to a college most likely learned that in Information Systems 101 class... as i mentioned before I would loveeeeeeeeeeeeeee to see him in one of the realms we are in and see how long he will survive.  having no life and making up calculators is more like playing "dressing Barbie up."   i suspect that's what he spends most of his time with...  *hihi* *hihi* *hihi*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 18:47:33 PM

Fragmaster... making calculators very easy... any educated person who's been to a college most likely learned that in Information Systems 101 class... as i mentioned before I would loveeeeeeeeeeeeeee to see him in one of the realms we are in and see how long he will survive.  having no life and making up calculators is more like playing "dressing Barbie up."   i suspect that's what he spends most of his time with...  *hihi* *hihi* *hihi*

man, this one was really low...  *freak*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 17, 2009, 18:48:13 PM
finally something I can agree with you...changes in the middle of realm are, I must say, moronic!!! admins totally disrespect their customers by it!!!
i didnt said that making changes in middle era is good. i just want to explain you why searching engine is changed now. only way to change university formula not in middle era is to make new version ie v4b and again every new realm start with this rules.
about attacking you know exactlly that old version have limit x3 range and version 4a (most realms now) have limit x5 range. just try thinking about this for a while. i still believe you can imagine that even if you are not so smart


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 17, 2009, 18:49:41 PM

Fragmaster... making calculators very easy... any educated person who's been to a college most likely learned that in Information Systems 101 class... as i mentioned before I would loveeeeeeeeeeeeeee to see him in one of the realms we are in and see how long he will survive.  having no life and making up calculators is more like playing "dressing Barbie up."   i suspect that's what he spends most of his time with...  *hihi* *hihi* *hihi*

and you have no chance to understand what i talking about. go play tycoon or sims like i said before


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: fragmaster on September 17, 2009, 18:50:03 PM

Fragmaster... making calculators very easy... any educated person who's been to a college most likely learned that in Information Systems 101 class... as i mentioned before I would loveeeeeeeeeeeeeee to see him in one of the realms we are in and see how long he will survive.  having no life and making up calculators is more like playing "dressing Barbie up."   i suspect that's what he spends most of his time with...  *hihi* *hihi* *hihi*

do u think that everybody here have college degree ? speaking of calculators , i would like u to make me one io combat simulator and send me src code, mine dont give  same results in some cases .

@bilko 5x is for monopol ofcourse ,to eliminate low point strategy forcing players to compete for top and to need resources for that ,aaaand credits maybe .


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 18:53:14 PM
i didnt said that making changes in middle era is good. i just want to explain you why searching engine is changed now. only way to change university formula not in middle era is to make new version ie v4b and again every new realm start with this rules.
about attacking you know exactlly that old version have limit x3 range and version 4a (most realms now) have limit x5 range. just try thinking about this for a while. i still believe you can imagine that even if you are nit so smart

so, after I gave you an up thumb up you continue dissing me...shame on you...I know the old rules, but changing them without any notice or any thing ??????????????? what the hell is that rather than insulting all players???


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 18:55:14 PM
do u think that everybody here have college degree ? speaking of calculators , i would like u to make me one io combat simulator and send me src code, mine dont give  same results in some cases .

@bilko 5x is for monopol ofcourse ,to eliminate low point strategy forcing players to compete for top and to need resources for that ,aaaand credits maybe .

what monopole, play or not play, what the h... ??? whatever low point strategy for you works, play it, just don't back stroll me back for it...


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Realmaker on September 17, 2009, 18:56:39 PM
fragmaster try bilko... that's his job... he can make any calculator you'd like for you. I don't have time to sit here and make a calculator... although as i said it is very easy.  

and the green tagged kid... instead of me playing sims... you come play in one of the realms we are in... will teach you a few lessons about how to war. better yet tell me the realms you are in and I'll have some visitors for you. shouldn't be a problem right? since you are sooo big and bad playing this game.  *hihi* *hihi*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 18:58:41 PM
fragmaster try bilko... that's his job... he can make any calculator you'd like for you. I don't have time to sit here and make a calculator... although as i said it is very easy.  

and the green tagged kid... instead of me playing sims... you come play in one of the realms we are in... will teach you a few lessons about how to war. better yet tell me the realms you are in and I'll have some visitors for you. shouldn't be a problem right? since you are sooo big and bad playing this game.  *hihi* *hihi*

ain't that the god damn truth!!!


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: fragmaster on September 17, 2009, 19:00:12 PM
low point doesnt work in v4a .every build can be broken due to 5x .


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 17, 2009, 19:02:01 PM
so, after I gave you an up thumb up you continue dissing me...shame on you...I know the old rules, but changing them without any notice or any thing ??????????????? what the hell is that rather than insulting all players???

i didnt told you are not smart, i told even if you arent smart you should understand this


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 19:02:36 PM
frogy, just say you agree, and we will all continue this fars as a joke...  *freak*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Mayhem on September 17, 2009, 19:04:35 PM
Removing the search for goldmines makes this a sims game you have to be a farmer and make all provinces so you can support a big army at the end. Those who wanted to grow faster took the military approach and attacked to take what they needed to build. Now with the changed search, it favors the farmers who built their sim farms all realm long. Changes like this when a realm is almost over are not correct for those who have played this and worked at it for the last 10 months. You have changed the whole dynamics of the game.......  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: rimini on September 17, 2009, 19:04:41 PM
As I said...if this keeps this way, 80% of players will just quit...we have our lists and will keep playing till the end of eras, but no one will be stupid enough to start a new era on this terms...
I agree 100%, I know enough players from 25Realm, after this era they stop play. I talk about players who buy credits.  
 How we can spend our money if we don't know what we will get for it?


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: fragmaster on September 17, 2009, 19:07:35 PM
theres only 3 things that can be done on forum : spam ,fight/argue ,and answer noob questions. we are doing fine spitting on eachother ,i like it  *freak*

@rimini
guys before u paid anything in this game ,there are a lot of sentences that u skipped .Like : IO owns all acounts, IO servers can crash without compensation , IO can change rules whenever they want .Remeber "I agree " big link  *freak* ?


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Realmaker on September 17, 2009, 19:11:45 PM
theres only 3 things that can be done on forum : spam ,fight/argue ,and answer noob questions. we are doing fine spitting on eachother ,i like it  *freak*

@rimini
guys before u paid anything in this game ,there are a lot of sentences that u skipped .Like : IO owns all acounts, IO servers can crash without compensation , IO can change rules whenever they want .Remeber "I agree " big link  *freak* ?

fragmaster I am an attorney and I assure you i can tear those fine lines apart and any judge would laugh at IO's face... this is one thing i know.  that being said. It is not about what they own or not... it is about good business. please, show me one company that survived changing terms as often as IO does and survived long term? as i said bad business and it will only loose customers.


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Mayhem on September 17, 2009, 19:12:00 PM
Yes I remember , remember this also you want to make money you keep your customers happy or they do not spend their money.....then you have no income. Kinda like shooting yourself in the foot isnt it ?............... *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: rimini on September 17, 2009, 19:12:31 PM
for you this is shit, for me not. problem is that players have possibilities to attack goldmines without range limit and cause that players chose to attack goldmines which have 10, 100, 1000x less points than they have. this is imperia online not necropolia online or goldmines online
why this was good 2 or more years?
And this is not imperia online-this is farmeria online

and no one admin can tell me where you can see changes of rules in middle of game ? ? ?  *crazy*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 17, 2009, 19:13:43 PM
if you dont want to know what noob like me want to said just dont read my posts. ok, i can only add 2 and 2, but some ppl think this is enough to by Trusted Member


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 19:16:45 PM
if you dont want to know what noob like me want to said just dont read my posts. ok, i can only add 2 and 2, but some ppl think this is enough to by Trusted Member

who gave you that lable any way? IO? figures...  *freak* (just a joke...)


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 17, 2009, 19:19:19 PM
why this was good 2 or more years?
And this is not imperia online-this is farmeria online

and no one admin can tell me where you can see changes of rules in middle of game ? ? ?  *crazy*

this shows you dont know you talking about. new rules which means possibilities attacking goldmines without range have about 1 year. i start play IO dezember 2008 then i dont know exactly how long but not 2 years


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: fragmaster on September 17, 2009, 19:20:44 PM
eh i liked che from begining .straight to smartest questions  *freak*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Realmaker on September 17, 2009, 19:21:32 PM
if you dont want to know what noob like me want to said just dont read my posts. ok, i can only add 2 and 2, but some ppl think this is enough to by Trusted Member

if you are the standard to become a trusted member that tells alot about what it takes to become a trusted member...  A big nothing. Don't let that green tag go to your head and think you are special... well, you are special but not in the sense that you think.  *hihi* *hihi* *hihi*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: svizcy on September 17, 2009, 19:22:37 PM
Look, if new era starts without gold-mines it's ok, becasue i wont play it. If you change this one where i have bought over 1000 credits for it already then you are pissing on my tree and i don't like it. *Angry*
Now i understand that owners of the game can change rules because it's their game, but we are the ones giving them money so unleas they want to be the only one left playing this IO game they may want start listening to our suggestions.


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 19:22:41 PM
this shows you dont know you talking about. new rules which means possibilities attacking goldmines without range have about 1 year. i start play IO dezember 2008 then i dont know exactly how long but not 2 years

well, I'll tell you if you don't know...it was implemented with new 4a realms cca. 1 year and three months ago with realm 25...


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 17, 2009, 19:24:22 PM
if you are the standard to become a trusted member that tells alot about what it takes to become a trusted member...  A big nothing. Don't let that green tag go to your head and think you are special... well, you are special but not in the sense that you think.  *hihi* *hihi* *hihi*
thank you. im special and you are attorney and you agree with rules which are breaking law. this tell a lot about you


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 19:24:34 PM
Look, if new era starts without gold-mines it's ok, becasue i wont play it. If you change this one where i have bought over 1000 credits for it already then you are pissing on my tree and i don't like it. *Angry*
Now i understand that owners of the game can change rules because it's their game, but we are the ones giving them money so unleas they want to be the only one left playing this IO game they may want start listening to our suggestions.

no one will play under this rule except farmers...


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Realmaker on September 17, 2009, 19:26:07 PM
thank you. im special and you are attorney and you agree with rules which are breaking law. this tell a lot about you

breaking the law?  you are not oly special but you also, have no idea how to read and understand what's being said.


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 19:26:44 PM
thank you. im special and you are attorney and you agree with rules which are breaking law. this tell a lot about you

man, you do not realise what you have just said...real will tear you apart now...  *freak*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 17, 2009, 19:29:40 PM
really? you just said that rules with which you agree registering in game said no truth. misleading clients to make profits is breaking law, in my country at least


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: rimini on September 17, 2009, 19:30:49 PM
this shows you dont know you talking about. new rules which means possibilities attacking goldmines without range have about 1 year. i start play IO dezember 2008 then i dont know exactly how long but not 2 years
I play 2 years and rules changing ALL times !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 I talking about ALL changes Now you understand?
I am not farmer, I like fight and know enough fighters, but our opinion is empty words
as you say we don't understand, yes, we are stupid, we play this game
Rimas_V
Realm25


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 17, 2009, 19:33:11 PM

as you say we don't understand, yes, we are stupid, we play this game
Rimas_V
Realm25

this are yours words not mine


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 19:34:48 PM
I play 2 years and rules changing ALL times !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 I talking about ALL changes Now you understand?
I am not farmer, I like fight and know enough fighters, but our opinion is empty words
as you say we don't understand, yes, we are stupid, we play this game
Rimas_V
Realm25

yes, we are really stupid to play a game without any rules...I can do the same at home for free...cheats and stuff...


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 19:36:09 PM
GET IT??? A GAME WITH NO RULES WHAT SO EVER!!! if you can make changes during an era that's as much as it is!!!


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: rimini on September 17, 2009, 19:40:01 PM
this are yours words not mine
No che its yours words, you tell-we dont' understand, I just ended. Anyway its no different


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 17, 2009, 19:41:00 PM
i said before and i will said it again. i agree that changing rules in middle era is not good think and i understand players but not as big change as university cost. i only want to talk i understand why programmers changed this and you try to tell i am bad. ok im bad and i will but i dont play game which dont give me joy and fun like lot ppl which talking like you


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 17, 2009, 19:41:59 PM
No che its yours words, you tell-we dont' understand, I just ended. Anyway its no different
when i will start thinkung you are stupid i will stop talking with you


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: svizcy on September 17, 2009, 19:47:41 PM
Again i will say...you can change new realms not the ones that are in the progress!!! It's like u buy a BMW and after 10000 Km your seller commes at your house and change your BMW for Pegeout206.  :rant:
Why is this so hard to understand? And why there are no Admins responding to this topic? This are the 2 main things that are bothering me the most.

good day, svizcy


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 19:50:02 PM
i said before and i will said it again. i agree that changing rules in middle era is not good think and i understand players but not as big change as university cost. i only want to talk i understand why programmers changed this and you try to tell i am bad. ok im bad and i will but i dont play game which dont give me joy and fun like lot ppl which talking like you

why are you talking any way? you clearly don't represent admins, you are only defending your job/position...


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: rimini on September 17, 2009, 19:52:29 PM
OK you are wise man, tell me in wich Realm you are play, I want to say where you are in top 50?
I have seen only Starbuck high in top by military points and no more moderators. Maybe you better know theory of this game, but in practise you not strong players


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: fragmaster on September 17, 2009, 19:53:23 PM
OK you are wise man, tell me in wich Realm you are play, I want to say where you are in top 50?
I have seen only Starbuck high in top by military points and no more moderators. Maybe you better know theory of this game, but in practise you not strong players
*hahaha* *hahaha* that was good one  *hahaha*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 19:55:08 PM
OK you are wise man, tell me in wich Realm you are play, I want to say where you are in top 50?
I have seen only Starbuck high in top by military points and no more moderators. Maybe you better know theory of this game, but in practise you not strong players

you mean me? r38 KMET - top mil.points and honor!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: rimini on September 17, 2009, 19:55:49 PM
OK you are wise man, tell me in wich Realm you are play, I want to say where you are in top 50?
I have seen only Starbuck high in top by military points and no more moderators. Maybe you better know theory of this game, but in practise you not strong players
its for Che, all admins are good writers, I am not, but I know how to play and I show it in real game not in words


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Dino740 on September 17, 2009, 19:57:33 PM
I am in the Top15 in Realm 9............... If you take away those who have already had a small ban for cheating and those that have not been caught yet, I would probably be in the Top 3.............


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Realmaker on September 17, 2009, 19:58:32 PM
i am watching football so i'll be with you soon the green tagged kid... don't worry i will give you the attention you deserve as a "Special" person.  *hihi*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: svizcy on September 17, 2009, 19:58:59 PM
Svizcy, R5, top 10 in military points, top 50 in honor and netwoth.


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: PACO_666 on September 17, 2009, 20:00:02 PM

well when i started playing it was nacropolia rules! and build my empire based on army and only 11 provinces, pumping soldiers every single minute, coz i knew i wanted a big army at the end of the realm not 17 provinces.... with 2 month till end of my realm ,,,, YOU ADMIN GUYS REAALY SCREW ME! because now i dont have time for centralisation and production and all that farming shit, and my army is really HUNGRY on gold! so next time they change the rules CHE, they do it with the start of a NEW realm! not before the ending of the REALM


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 20:00:30 PM
weep and weep again...I am the one and only...  *freak*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 17, 2009, 20:01:58 PM
its for Che, all admins are good writers, I am not, but I know how to play and I show it in real game not in words
i didnt ever told im good player, i dont say you are not good, i even dont know im good writer cause my english is not good like should it be. i only told what im thinking about changing search players engine and you all try to destroy me


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 20:03:35 PM
i didnt ever told im good player, i dont say you are not good, i even dont know im good writer cause my english is not good like should it be. i only told what im thinking about changing search players engine and you all try to destroy me

just go along and do NOT try to convince us it's a good thing...


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 17, 2009, 20:04:05 PM
i am watching football so i'll be with you soon the green tagged kid... don't worry i will give you the attention you deserve as a "Special" person.  *hihi*
but you not. im not talking with you anymore


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: rimini on September 17, 2009, 20:07:26 PM
Che, its nothing personaly, just look, here enough fighters and like PACO_666 said: "we dont have time for centralisation and production and all that farming shit" and we sure are angry. I am absolutly don't like farming


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 20:08:59 PM
but you not. im not talking with you anymore

che, I know you got in the middle of this by trying to defend your employes, but it's time to use your own brain...


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Jarema on September 17, 2009, 20:09:27 PM
We are not important for them...  *cry*
We must adapt *gamer* or do suicide *suicide* ---  *freak* *freak* *freak*
I will adapt to new rules of game, because this is just a game...  *bear*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 17, 2009, 20:10:35 PM
che, I know you got in the middle of this by trying to defend your employes, but it's time to use your own brain...
i have nothing for being TM, even 1 credit


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 20:12:21 PM
i have nothing for being TM, even 1 credit

why are you defending them still than? it's obvious this came out of hand...


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: tiger on September 17, 2009, 20:15:05 PM
Now i took time and read all topic.
I think chegewara first answer was enough. Searching was slowing down game seriusly and it was never intended to be so. So they fix it. Will the game will be more attacking or farming orientated, i dont wish to discuss that. i leave that to all of you. But the change is done. It would be better to make change in the beggining of realm, but thats impossible. or all realm or none. And that was allready told.
after that i saw only insults, wish to argue or to humiliate chegewara from some players. I dont see a point if he is trusted member here, if he told you official stance. And  dont see what got his playing skills to do with that. But he have nice understanding of game and a wish to help player without just posting RTFM.
I dont know if you will respect the blue sign i have, because green sign doesnt mean anything to you. I play this game over 2,5 years from V1 to V4a and i saw all changes, i did some job for IO and i became CM. I wrote a lot about some changes saying they are ok or they are not ok, before i became CM. But IO grow from 1,2,3,4,10,20,86... realms. Somethings could be better, but we are improving and changing. And i rather see change then if we still played the same as 2,5 years ago. If you have something constructive to say, say it. on forum or in PM to me and i will listen. and if its worth i will tell to upper lvls. So while i am here, you have chance to tell somebody. But this kind of behavior like in this topic leads to nothing.
And if it continue, topic will be simply locked.
And if you wish to settle who is better, play NI next era. :)


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: markezt on September 17, 2009, 20:18:29 PM
I suggest we all stop playing. Obviously developers, programmers and the game owner are not reading any forum and the don't give a shit about our complaints.. The only way to change their minds is that dinamycs in game drops substantialy. Maybe, if they care about it anyway. If there will be only che, fragmaster and couple of others, they will maybe ask themselves, who are their customers.

So, I suggest that we all put everything on producing gold, don't attack anyone, don't start any war. If you need gold to upkeep, attack nearby goldmines that you know from the era before the big change, and you will be able to do that until they decide to change the names of goldmines (otherwise now those witl excel like lists are avorized) or they even delete them. Next level would maybe be to just disband all soldiers and put everything on the market.

I don't know what is wrong with Travian. It hasn't got any sophisticated war model. You can even take enemy's province. Which is normal in reality btw, only the distance matters a little bit, but also in travian distance makes the conquering harder. In one year, that I have spent with the game, there wasn't any change in game rules..


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 17, 2009, 20:18:43 PM
why are you defending them still than? it's obvious this came out of hand...
now im defending myself cause you dont read what im writing in there. and like i said before when i start you are not worth to talk with you i will stop. i hope you understand i dont defend admins and programmers. i agreed with you few times that is not good to change rules in middle era but they can change search engine now, they still work on it to back it, and let you to lose yours army cause servers lags or do what they did


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 17, 2009, 20:43:01 PM
now im defending myself cause you dont read what im writing in there. and like i said before when i start you are not worth to talk with you i will stop. i hope you understand i dont defend admins and programmers. i agreed with you few times that is not good to change rules in middle era but they can change search engine now, they still work on it to back it, and let you to lose yours army cause servers lags or do what they did

ok, ok...we are 50/50...I said defending admins (I understood you wrong)....talking to me can only make your work fun...:)


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Realmaker on September 17, 2009, 21:27:53 PM
Dear community manager or whatever the politically correct term... green red blue doesn't mean much. we are here because you guys should (not necessarily you alone) pay attention what the  customer wants. we share alot of constructive ideas but they are not even considered nor we are even acknowledged... if so someone who has the ability and the authority should share it with us. we deserve that much...  as far as what you said about either all or non... well i know enough that the changes can be made at the beginning or the end of each realm not in the middle of it. that's the right thing to do and the only solution they can justify to all the players. I don't think IO understand that people already started leaving the game or thinking seriously about it.   did you ask us what we want? no. did you guys have the majority complain about gold mines? no... so, what is this non sense? why make everyone annoyed especially those paying members that help buy those new servers and pay alot of wages?  *stop* *pardon*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Flanger on September 17, 2009, 21:46:33 PM
I personally don't have anything against that fix. Really, if you read my post I just mention
that alternative income method is disabled. The only thing that worries me, is that recent
change in university development. As I've said earlier it would be very nice to see saner
timers than they are right now. My university literally requires 8x more time. If it was at
least halved, it would be still a pretty much challenging to get 25 provinces, but same time
would give a player who is used to be a farmer and likes it, an opportunity to have a big army
to defend himself on higher levels. As 15-16 provinces will help him in his upkeep paying.
As the upkeep is constant and won't be changed ever, still I hope that university demands will
be a bit reworked, shifted if you will. I don't have a huge army, 726998 units total and my 15
provinces with 20 bureaucracy can barely pay them off.

So halving the university time, would still make 25 provinces nonprofitable + would still let an
average farmer to breathe. And if one wants to have really huge army, he/she would start
attacking to multiply his/her income, to support them.


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: HRdevil on September 17, 2009, 22:13:02 PM
Stupid ppl are afraid to be wrong and defend themselves by insulting cheguewara,tiger and all other ppl that has reason these ppl even called me gay for making a fool of them psycologically.

you sissy's can quit the game i really don't care.


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Realmaker on September 17, 2009, 23:06:15 PM
Stupid ppl are afraid to be wrong and defend themselves by insulting cheguewara,tiger and all other ppl that has reason these ppl even called me gay for making a fool of them psycologically.

you sissy's can quit the game i really don't care.

making a fool? hahaha u r the only one made fool of...  but then we wouldn't expect you to know that cause you are "very special" too. Also, it's ok that you are gay we don't care... *hihi* *hihi*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Mayhem on September 17, 2009, 23:19:24 PM
Maybe the reason the server is having lag issues is due to the amount of (ahh umm) players in game.
Let me explain, if you ever registered in a realm , even if you do not play it automatically adds you each time the realm starts. This gives a false sense of how many players are actually playing this. Plus it seems to be encouraged to keep making accounts until you find a province layout that you like to build with. In this may they can claim thousands play this, when in reality if all non active accounts were removed at the end of each era, inactive as in not being played at all. it would reduce the number of players greatly. I searched through player list one time in realm 50 and found over 55,000 players in the list in rankings. ( I could not find the end of the list and stopped) Now we all know in reality there is not 55,000 players playing in realm 50. This is how it can be claimed there are thousands of registered player, not active players mind you, just registered ones. If all the inactive accounts were removed instead of being auto generated each time a realm starts this ( yes they are auto generated ) it would ease the load on the game when a player searches for goldmines. This over inflated player count is what is causing the problem when a player searches for goldmines the way we were searching. Why are accounts auto generated even if that person no longer plays Io you ask? So they can claim its a massive large player base for marketing purposes, when in reality if all those multiple accounts made when searching for that perfect province and all the old inactive accounts were removed it would reduce the server load when someone searches and makes the game run smoother. However then they cant claim its a massive game with thousands of registered players playing. Yes there are thousands of registered player, however how many accounts are actually being played, and how many are auto generated each time an era starts. Check it for yourself , I dare you to go through player list and find the end of it. they have had to continually make maps bigger and bigger to accomadate the number of accounts registered in each realm that are auto generated each time the realm starts so there is room for all of the players. Maybe all provinces should be made the same instead of this random draw. Then instead of people signing up over and over trying to find that perfect layout to build with all would have the same layout. This would reduce number of people making multi accounts, and reduce the server load when its searched.


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: blackdeath on September 18, 2009, 00:14:32 AM
who has time to read that book??? i dont understand why players try to practice writing skills here.......... shoirt and to the point answers are welcomed.


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: chegewara on September 18, 2009, 00:17:21 AM
http://forum.imperiaonline.org/int/index.php?topic=17713.msg151809#msg151809
It must be inactive for more than 3 weeks. Inactive accounts are cleared to ease up the database of a realm. The more accounts there are in a single realm, the slower it gets for everyone in it. The fact that we have 80 realms with each one being limited to 80 000 spaces instead of having like 10 mega-realms with 640 000 spaces in each is not by accident.

and as i know only accounts with diamonds are not removed at end era.


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Realmaker on September 18, 2009, 01:08:19 AM
you know i've read today somewhere it was the community manager i think... he said that the whole searching for goldmines was a glitch originally... and now it is fixed... well, if so why in the world does IO use that as a selling point to paid members? abandoned empires button?????  let's try to sound a bit consistent... and you guys try to be accountable for each other working there...


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: HRdevil on September 18, 2009, 01:35:20 AM
making a fool? hahaha u r the only one made fool of...  but then we wouldn't expect you to know that cause you are "very special" too. Also, it's ok that you are gay we don't care... *hihi* *hihi*

There are many way to look 4 mines but only stupid ppl complains. *pardon*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Realmaker on September 18, 2009, 02:03:23 AM
There are many way to look 4 mines but only stupid ppl complains. *pardon*

that's stupid people complain... to start with... only stupid people who are just bad players would not complain about it.  just tell me your realm and we'll see how long you survive this game...


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: HRdevil on September 18, 2009, 02:13:30 AM
that's stupid people complain... to start with... only stupid people who are just bad players would not complain about it.  just tell me your realm and we'll see how long you survive this game...
not currently playing dumbass. *hahaha*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: fragmaster on September 18, 2009, 02:24:15 AM
actually final step in players progress is quitting.once u realize u saw it all ,u did a lot of beautifull perfect battles ,solved many hard wars .. only thing that is left to see is how flags change in realm rankings ,and how people can be 24/7 online if things get really ugly ... or at least always when its important


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: dasher on September 18, 2009, 05:47:44 AM
Searching was slowing down game seriusly and it was never intended to be so. So they fix it. Will the game will be more attacking or farming orientated, i dont wish to discuss that. i leave that to all of you. But the change is done. It would be better to make change in the beggining of realm, but thats impossible. or all realm or none. And that was allready told.

On the surface it appears that the IO team have 2 main revenue streams - credits & advertising.  As these income sources are directly related to traffic from customers - implementing anything that reduces the number of customers will impact your bottom line.

There are several technical and non-technical ways to implement a change to systems that affect your clients.

Change is hard and generally it's something that people don't like.  People feel comfortable with what they get to know, a way of operating.  A good example is the modern interface to IO - some hate it, some love it.

Non-technical ways are involve communicating information about change involve making your customers feel part of that change.  Write about what is happening, what's coming and why.  It's simple, they feel part of the loop and part of the change process - without it they feel alienated.

Technically (in the software world) anything is possible.  If you can think it, you can do it.
It's what I do for a living - I architect systems for clients both big and small.  I've also been involved in the development teams a number of web based systems - LOTGD and Wordpress.com being some names/sites you might know.  I mention these only to illustrate that I have experience of the issues.

The hard part of a system is having people with the skills and abilities to diagnose and identify issues - then having people able to come up with options to solve those problems - it's managements job to then determine which approach to follow that will ensure profits will continue from both existing customers and attract new ones.

The recent changes to realms mid-era have annoyed many.  Technically it wasn't necessary - approaches to having separate code bases for instances are well developed (IO uses some of them already with the classic and modern pages running side-by-side).  With the advent and availability of virtual servers and software load-balancing scaling to meet demand is fairly simple, straight-forward and easy to implement.  Additionally it brings cost down dramatically - often reducing your technical operating overhead by 30+%.

Now software systems grow over time, what starts out as a good simple and effective design can often grow into something that starts to creak and groan under the strain.  Sometimes you apply band aids, sometimes you have to bite the bullet and rewrite or redeploy your system in a way that scales more gracefully - using what you've learned along the way and often with cleaner or more modern-design patterns.

Now IO is an interesting game and I enjoyed played it (for many hours a day :) ) very much - but when it comes down to it - it's not that complex.  That is has such a large & passionate following is a credit to those to developed and brought the application to where it is today.  I find it surprising that those in charge are willing to jeopardize such a varied, passionate group of supporters.

You know it takes a long time to build up credibility and a following - but it doesn't take much to lose them and your profits.


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Mayhem on September 18, 2009, 13:39:30 PM
for those who do not know ......... LOTGD is Legend of The Green Dragon


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Par7yguy on September 18, 2009, 15:27:58 PM
KRUM and the others, buy new servers and quit fooling around


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 18, 2009, 15:38:42 PM
KRUM and the others, buy new servers and quit fooling around

as I said, after eras of v4a realms end, old players will go away for sure...so I guess IO want's new players and doesn't want old players any more...


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: rimini on September 18, 2009, 16:45:12 PM
as I said, after eras of v4a realms end, old players will go away for sure...so I guess IO want's new players and doesn't want old players any more...
exactly  *bravo* I see in 25th old players start quiting IO New players better for admins, they nothing know and will play 1 year and will pay money
So, we are history, time to finish IO


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: tiger on September 18, 2009, 16:59:05 PM
i talked today with programer for detailed info i wish to know, somethings are improved and taking this search was a must if we all wanted relativly normal gameplay. yes we bought new servers, we are constantly improving stuff. if there will be a way to make goldmines search better, we will do it. for sometime, there will be only search by name and i dont know how long and if that will be permanent. use old goldcoins, form reports, other players... there is plenty of them in all realms. and be patient a little. we wouldnt change that if we didnt have good reason.


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: svizcy on September 18, 2009, 19:42:03 PM
Good, finnaly some possitive info and response.


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: blackdeath on September 18, 2009, 22:48:20 PM
very good answer tiger, we reallly appreciate answers like that, *rose* *rose*  we are humans after all.............


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 19, 2009, 01:24:56 AM
i talked today with programer for detailed info i wish to know, somethings are improved and taking this search was a must if we all wanted relativly normal gameplay. yes we bought new servers, we are constantly improving stuff. if there will be a way to make goldmines search better, we will do it. for sometime, there will be only search by name and i dont know how long and if that will be permanent. use old goldcoins, form reports, other players... there is plenty of them in all realms. and be patient a little. we wouldnt change that if we didnt have good reason.

patience is our virtue... :) why are you talking like you were a part of IO? :)


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: HRdevil on September 19, 2009, 01:43:06 AM
patience is our virtue... :) why are you talking like you were a part of IO? :)

clearly he is a comunity manager (he manages the comunity duh) add -k  *freak*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Realmaker on September 19, 2009, 01:49:21 AM
clearly he is a comunity manager (he manages the comunity duh) add -k  *freak*

u seriously need a white coat. why don't u find something more productive and leave here since you don't play any longer?


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: HRdevil on September 19, 2009, 02:58:11 AM
u seriously need a white coat. why don't u find something more productive and leave here since you don't play any longer?

Wow! you're like following me everywhere. Are you some kind of perverted stalker?  *freak*



Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: tiger on September 19, 2009, 02:59:14 AM
patience is our virtue... :) why are you talking like you were a part of IO? :)
i am part of IO team, i am community manager for Croatia, but i also help at this forum when i have time and it is needed(every day) :) and i still play IO, atleast 1 realm. so i see all stuff in-game and how it influences gameplay. so i see stuff on both sides, players and developers.
  we are humans after all.............
by picture and name i thought you were skeleton.  *hahaha*  
i understand that if there were some info in news before we changed it or atleast right after change and we wouldnt have this topic. i hope there will be some news section made in some time, to give info to players about changes.
have fun guys, dont argue. and i said most of stuff i had to say. about this topic i mean.  *gamer*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: blackdeath on September 19, 2009, 03:16:04 AM
 *hahaha* *hahaha* i wish i were a skeleton lol....... everything in its own time i guess. :head_hurts_kr: :head_hurts_kr:


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: HRdevil on September 19, 2009, 03:25:48 AM
*hahaha* *hahaha* i wish i were a skeleton lol....... everything in its own time i guess. :head_hurts_kr: :head_hurts_kr:
Careful what you wish for. :evil4:


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 19, 2009, 08:53:44 AM
clearly he is a comunity manager (he manages the comunity duh) add -k  *freak*

you do NOT know what are you talking about... TIGER is one of best players ever, and cause of that he got com.man. title for Croatia...
and I AM a major here, though I was striped off my title cause of that moron remark...


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: beebee on September 19, 2009, 09:08:58 AM
this new rule is baaaad.. i know meny players who will quit playing bechose this.. and i dont know will i continue aswell.. but i know that i wont buy eny credits enymore.. ever.. :rant: :evil4:


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 19, 2009, 09:12:23 AM
this new rule is baaaad.. i know meny players who will quit playing bechose this.. and i dont know will i continue aswell.. but i know that i wont buy eny credits enymore.. ever.. :rant: :evil4:

as I said many times - realms will end...and the game will end, fortunately for developers they have more games to earn money on, but IO is finished...


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: HRdevil on September 19, 2009, 09:27:24 AM
you do NOT know what are you talking about... TIGER is one of best players ever, and cause of that he got com.man. title for Croatia...
and I AM a major here, though I was striped off my title cause of that moron remark...

if you knew then y u ask? *freak* obviosly  u ppl don't even know how to search for programer and ask them about any bug or something. u don't even read the seccion where u can't post. *freak*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 19, 2009, 09:28:29 AM
if you knew then y u ask? *freak* obviosly  u ppl don't even know how to search for programer and ask them about any bug or something. u don't even read the seccion where u can't post. *freak*

shut the F... up, you I... (gnorant person)...  *crazy*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Console_Cowboy on September 19, 2009, 11:56:27 AM
As I said...if this keeps this way, 80% of players will just quit...we have our lists and will keep playing till the end of eras, but no one will be stupid enough to start a new era on this terms...
100% my case.  I have two noobs (farmers) in my alliance that will not return either.  They are visciously attacked and it is only the low pointers/warriors who are keeping their/our enemies at bay.  


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Console_Cowboy on September 19, 2009, 12:13:58 PM
and the green tagged kid... instead of me playing sims... you come play in one of the realms we are in... will teach you a few lessons about how to war. better yet tell me the realms you are in and I'll have some visitors for you. shouldn't be a problem right? since you are sooo big and bad playing this game.  *hihi* *hihi*
The last I read on this forum, he wrote he does not play the game.  


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Console_Cowboy on September 19, 2009, 12:18:52 PM
fragmaster I am an attorney and I assure you i can tear those fine lines apart and any judge would laugh at IO's face... this is one thing i know.  that being said. It is not about what they own or not... it is about good business. please, show me one company that survived changing terms as often as IO does and survived long term? as i said bad business and it will only loose customers.
Yeah, I don't want to be the only player in the realm.... either because no one signed up or because no one remained....  


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Console_Cowboy on September 19, 2009, 12:54:14 PM
Well reasoned, respectful rebuttle explained with easy to understand examples.  Well done.  As a seasoned PR consultant, let me say that you are right on with what you state about the function of communications, and marketing communications in particular.  But you also are acutely aware of this industry's standards vis-a-vis communications.  It was good to read your post after investing myself through 6-7 pages.  Thank you!
On the surface it appears that the IO team have 2 main revenue streams - credits & advertising.  As these income sources are directly related to traffic from customers - implementing anything that reduces the number of customers will impact your bottom line.

There are several technical and non-technical ways to implement a change to systems that affect your clients.

Change is hard and generally it's something that people don't like.  People feel comfortable with what they get to know, a way of operating.  A good example is the modern interface to IO - some hate it, some love it.

Non-technical ways are involve communicating information about change involve making your customers feel part of that change.  Write about what is happening, what's coming and why.  It's simple, they feel part of the loop and part of the change process - without it they feel alienated.

Technically (in the software world) anything is possible.  If you can think it, you can do it.
It's what I do for a living - I architect systems for clients both big and small.  I've also been involved in the development teams a number of web based systems - LOTGD and Wordpress.com being some names/sites you might know.  I mention these only to illustrate that I have experience of the issues.

The hard part of a system is having people with the skills and abilities to diagnose and identify issues - then having people able to come up with options to solve those problems - it's managements job to then determine which approach to follow that will ensure profits will continue from both existing customers and attract new ones.

The recent changes to realms mid-era have annoyed many.  Technically it wasn't necessary - approaches to having separate code bases for instances are well developed (IO uses some of them already with the classic and modern pages running side-by-side).  With the advent and availability of virtual servers and software load-balancing scaling to meet demand is fairly simple, straight-forward and easy to implement.  Additionally it brings cost down dramatically - often reducing your technical operating overhead by 30+%.

Now software systems grow over time, what starts out as a good simple and effective design can often grow into something that starts to creak and groan under the strain.  Sometimes you apply band aids, sometimes you have to bite the bullet and rewrite or redeploy your system in a way that scales more gracefully - using what you've learned along the way and often with cleaner or more modern-design patterns.

Now IO is an interesting game and I enjoyed played it (for many hours a day :) ) very much - but when it comes down to it - it's not that complex.  That is has such a large & passionate following is a credit to those to developed and brought the application to where it is today.  I find it surprising that those in charge are willing to jeopardize such a varied, passionate group of supporters.

You know it takes a long time to build up credibility and a following - but it doesn't take much to lose them and your profits.



Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: HRdevil on September 19, 2009, 21:19:36 PM
shut the F... up, you I... (gnorant person)...  *crazy*

In case you didn't know "all human are ignorant" thanks for the compliment. *freak*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on September 19, 2009, 22:16:46 PM
In case you didn't know "all human are ignorant" thanks for the compliment. *freak*

at least we agree on something...  *freak*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: gerush on October 14, 2009, 07:11:22 AM
you mean me? r38 KMET - top mil.points and honor!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I knew that.This is the reason why your account bilko1 was banned.lol,maybe illegal trade in the first month of the era?


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: HRdevil on October 14, 2009, 08:23:48 AM
I knew that.This is the reason why your account bilko1 was banned.lol,maybe illegal trade in the first month of the era?

I think he was selling them to donate to the alliance and he buyed them by accident  *hahaha* a huge cheating alliance.


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: gerush on October 14, 2009, 15:00:48 PM
I think he was selling them to donate to the alliance and he buyed them by accident  *hahaha* a huge cheating alliance.
they are cheaters,we all know this.But he wasn`t donating it to the alliance ,i think he was buying it for himself.They have other players for donating gold to the alliance.


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: gerush on October 14, 2009, 16:08:36 PM
at least,they get 3 to 4 players banned every month *hihi* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on October 14, 2009, 17:28:22 PM
I think he was selling them to donate to the alliance and he buyed them by accident  *hahaha*

that is true, and every body does it...(not mistaking, but doing it)

they are cheaters,we all know this.But he wasn`t donating it to the alliance ,i think he was buying it for himself.They have other players for donating gold to the alliance.

that is a lie, I never cheated on purpose...I'm on line 24/7 depriving my self from sleep for it, that's why I have what I have, look at my offensive victories and my battles history and you'll see what I'm talking about...

and byw, Emperor13 was banned without any reason!!! F... you admins!!! He was banned with explanation: this is not your account...hello??? the original owner left the game and I got a friend taking over it! Where the hell is there a cheat???  *xxx* off course I looked into it, but I never did anything with it...no attacks, no fixed battles, no selling or buying, no nothing...I left it all to my friend...

and I'm not responsible for cheats that some of my allies did!!! the main rule in my ally is YOU MUST NOT CHEAT, cause if you do, you will be thrown out, either by admins or by me!!! and they were...

byw gerush, you know my nick, are you brave enough to tell me yours?  *GIRL_CRAZY*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: gerush on October 14, 2009, 18:23:57 PM
that is true, and every body does it...(not mistaking, but doing it)

that is a lie, I never cheated on purpose...I'm on line 24/7 depriving my self from sleep for it, that's why I have what I have, look at my offensive victories and my battles history and you'll see what I'm talking about...

and byw, Emperor13 was banned without any reason!!! F... you admins!!! He was banned with explanation: this is not your account...hello??? the original owner left the game and I got a friend taking over it! Where the hell is there a cheat???  *xxx* off course I looked into it, but I never did anything with it...no attacks, no fixed battles, no selling or buying, no nothing...I left it all to my friend...

and I'm not responsible for cheats that some of my allies did!!! the main rule in my ally is YOU MUST NOT CHEAT, cause if you do, you will be thrown out, either by admins or by me!!! and they were...

byw gerush, you know my nick, are you brave enough to tell me yours?  *GIRL_CRAZY*

lol,it is not a problem if someone knows my nick.


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: gerush on October 14, 2009, 18:26:25 PM
and your friend destroyed my army because i thought war was over and i left a part of my army at home.
I will not do this mistake again *Angry* *Angry*..And can i ask you, how old are you?


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: HRdevil on October 14, 2009, 19:45:33 PM
He's not brave enought to show you his user name, KMET i didn't knew that bilko1 was KMET  *hahaha* I do not know why the hell the admins banned Emperor13 account if my friend stopped playing cause of university and gave the account and email to the other player. wtf, happened here?


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: gerush on October 14, 2009, 20:08:59 PM
He's not brave enought to show you his user name, KMET i didn't knew that bilko1 was KMET  *hahaha* I do not know why the hell the admins banned Emperor13 account if my friend stopped playing cause of university and gave the account and email to the other player. wtf, happened here?

lol,my username is Gerush,the same as my username here.YOU didn`t know that bilko1 was kmet??I knew that before but if emperor13 was your friend he must have told it to you.And,by the way,are YOU brave enough to reveal your username in realm38?


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: HRdevil on October 14, 2009, 20:13:34 PM
lol,my username is Gerush,the same as my username here.YOU didn`t know that bilko1 was kmet??I knew that before but if emperor13 was your friend he must have told it to you.And,by the way,are YOU brave enough to reveal your username in realm38?

WTF? i don't play in realm 38, if i were i'd be in the top 5 cause R38 suck, look at emperor13 he wasn't even buying credits and he was #4 until he handed his account to a dumb player, Emperor13 wich had 10 credits from the game tutorial in case he needed to get in vacation mode.  *hahaha*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: gerush on October 14, 2009, 20:20:06 PM
i thought this was your account:
No. Rank      Player Alliance Distance Points Honor 
1                HRdevil            4204         71   614         *hahaha* *hahaha*   
 


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: gerush on October 14, 2009, 20:22:03 PM
WTF? i don't play in realm 38, if i were i'd be in the top 5 cause R38 suck, look at emperor13 he wasn't even buying credits and he was #4 until he handed his account to a dumb player, Emperor13 wich had 10 credits from the game tutorial in case he needed to get in vacation mode.  *hahaha*

lol.Tell me one of your 200 accounts which is in the top 5.


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: HRdevil on October 14, 2009, 20:24:53 PM
lol.Tell me one of your 200 accounts which is in the top 5.

 *hahaha* i registered there because i was going to play with emperor13 but then i had exam and needed to stop playing for a while so i registered in another realm :P Now so much interest you have on me  *stop*

Attack that goldmine and be happy.  *freak*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: gerush on October 14, 2009, 20:26:52 PM
lol *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on October 15, 2009, 07:21:04 AM
and your friend destroyed my army because i thought war was over and i left a part of my army at home.
I will not do this mistake again *Angry* *Angry*..And can i ask you, how old are you?

I'll be 31 in few moths...  *rose*

lol,my username is Gerush,the same as my username here.YOU didn`t know that bilko1 was kmet??I knew that before but if emperor13 was your friend he must have told it to you.And,by the way,are YOU brave enough to reveal your username in realm38?

Yes I'm KMET, everyone knows that now...  *xxx*

oh, gerush, you're in VIRUS ally, I didn't see you before cause you're just too small for me... :)

byw, do you know where noobs fled?  *hahaha* after we went to war with them, they dissapeared!!!  *freak* *freak* *hahaha*  *hahaha* *hahaha*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: gerush on October 15, 2009, 14:59:58 PM
in 31????
what does it mean?


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: gerush on October 15, 2009, 15:06:44 PM
I'll be 31 in few moths...  *rose*

Yes I'm KMET, everyone knows that now...  *xxx*

oh, gerush, you're in VIRUS ally, I didn't see you before cause you're just too small for me... :)

byw, do you know where noobs fled?  *hahaha* after we went to war with them, they dissapeared!!!  *freak* *freak* *hahaha*  *hahaha* *hahaha*

first i had asked hrdevil!!! not you

you think i am too small???lol
i think you are a coward,if i am too small why don`t you attack players in your 2x range? you and your friends attack players in 3x range because you can`t beat the players in you 2x range.I don`t think you help your friends in war,do you?
and even if you attack someone in war,you will attack someone in your 5x range,like someone with 500000 points or less.


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on October 15, 2009, 15:47:31 PM
first i had asked hrdevil!!! not you

you think i am too small???lol
i think you are a coward,if i am too small why don`t you attack players in your 2x range? you and your friends attack players in 3x range because you can`t beat the players in you 2x range.I don`t think you help your friends in war,do you?
and even if you attack someone in war,you will attack someone in your 5x range,like someone with 500000 points or less.
*freak*  *freak*  *freak* I attack anyone I can, and for your information, I have only 19 players within my x2 and most of them are friends, so who do you think I'll attack?  *hahaha* mods, please move this topic to rpg area, or at least general talk, it's over spammed...  *nospam* *freak*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: gerush on October 15, 2009, 16:01:10 PM
lol,at least you have your precious scientist position.You will not be leader of warble again,will you?


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: HRdevil on October 15, 2009, 16:17:56 PM
So what if you ask me? maybe you should take a hike geruch  *ok*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on October 15, 2009, 16:29:41 PM
lol,at least you have your precious scientist position.You will not be leader of warble again,will you?
I'm not scientist, I'm FO and I will be leader after I built all provs... :) you think I'd be scientist during a war? *freak* you've got to be kidding me...  *hahaha*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: HRdevil on October 15, 2009, 16:42:14 PM
I'm not scientist, I'm FO and I will be leader after I built all provs... :) you think I'd be scientist during a war? *freak* you've got to be kidding me...  *hahaha*

 *hahaha*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on October 15, 2009, 16:45:08 PM
*hahaha*

man, there are really funny people around here...  *freak*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: HRdevil on October 15, 2009, 17:27:45 PM
You got that right..  *hihi*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: Flanger on October 15, 2009, 17:31:51 PM
we all wait patiently for our turn to be a scientist, especially when the era is near the end :D


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: bilko1 on October 15, 2009, 22:49:02 PM
byw, I'm out out here...leaving this stupid game for good... *cool*


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: gerush on October 16, 2009, 17:56:59 PM
byw, I'm out out here...leaving this stupid game for good... *cool*
lol,will you play in the next era?


Title: Re: NO GOLDMINES AT ALL???????
Post by: HELLyeah on October 18, 2009, 11:41:33 AM
lol,will you play in the next era?
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no hes not  *bravo*