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Title: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: kingjohn on November 06, 2007, 12:12:13 PM
This advice is only good for realm 1-4.

Note: Use this as a guide only and it has not yet completed. This is very rough. I will refine it until it's perfect.
General hints: University lvl should always be one two two lvls above all research lvl.

Stage 1 for your first province.
1. Get University Lvl 2
2. Get range attack 1.
3. Build lvl 3 archers barracks.
4. Research colonization.
Stage 1 for your 2 province.
1. Get University Lvl 4
2. Research colonization.
Stage 1 for your 3 province.
1. Get University Lvl 5
2. Research colonization.

After the 3 prov:
arquitecture lvl3 / granarys lvl6 / bure. lvl 4 and medicine lvl 2

when you made farm lvl 8 research TRADE lvl1 because bis necessary

After seven province, if the cost  of gold for medicine is less than province 8, get medicine, if it is the same as province 8, get the province. I am referring to the amount of gold needed for the research.

Credits to Zepovinho King of Farmers as this information is contributed by him.

Note: For farmers only, if you want to play networth, buildings and research must never stop, if you got money just keep researching and building buildings only especially granaries.


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: k_mihai on November 06, 2007, 13:01:50 PM
and stay with trade at 50%, hmm... i usually build it right after university

i must write smth before kroppy comes in


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: citral on November 07, 2007, 04:01:36 AM
yea me to, cause trade 1 costs nothing. And I up my granary's to at least 5, esp, when u have no provinces. after your 2nd colonising, its better to research med.


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: kingjohn on November 07, 2007, 04:17:15 AM
yea me to, cause trade 1 costs nothing. And I up my granary's to at least 5, esp, when u have no provinces. after your 2nd colonising, its better to research med.

agreed because trade lvl 1 is cheap but if you don't even trade 0 resources then don't need to research it. However, what the hell. It's cheap, so trade lvl 1 reduces from 50% to 30% commision, so it's quite essential especially to trade during emergency. ABout granary, I don't agree with you though, meds can get later but what the hell, I prefer to get it  early :-) That manual is my style. Anyway citral, thanks for the input, it was great feedback, I appreciate further feedback from you. THanks again. *YAHOO* *evil* *bear*


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: zepovinho on November 07, 2007, 06:18:22 AM
Trade for what????


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: zargophian on November 07, 2007, 06:19:24 AM
maybe because they have lots of spare resources...  :D :D :D :D :D :D


trade only when farm level x asks for level 1.


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: zepovinho on November 07, 2007, 06:20:38 AM
 *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha*


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: kingjohn on November 07, 2007, 06:31:29 AM
maybe because they have lots of spare resources...  :D :D :D :D :D :D


trade only when farm level x asks for level 1.

Yeah, and you told me buildings must never stop so my granaries at r9 reached lvl 33.


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: zargophian on November 07, 2007, 08:00:48 AM
 :D :D :D


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: k_mihai on November 07, 2007, 11:50:22 AM
for example, if u win a battle, lots of gold and want to buy smth, u need trade


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: isolde on November 07, 2007, 12:19:50 PM
for example, if u win a battle, lots of gold and want to buy smth, u need trade

he will never win a battle  :D


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: tangle on November 07, 2007, 12:35:28 PM
      do not build granaries  :o   whats wrong with you? medicine work with the amount of population you have, grain gives you 1 person per hour per lvl!! so look at it like this; medicine in the start do not work as well as granaries because you have few people. if you build granaries, which is very cheap to build, you get nice boost to population  *ok*


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: kingjohn on November 07, 2007, 12:36:57 PM
      do not build granaries  :o   whats wrong with you? medicine work with the amount of population you have, grain gives you 1 person per hour per lvl!! so look at it like this; medicine in the start do not work as well as granaries because you have few people. if you build granaries, which is very cheap to build, you get nice boost to population  *ok*

I will let zepovinho comment on this, he is the master farmer.


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: isolde on November 07, 2007, 12:42:39 PM
      do not build granaries  :o   whats wrong with you? medicine work with the amount of population you have, grain gives you 1 person per hour per lvl!! so look at it like this; medicine in the start do not work as well as granaries because you have few people. if you build granaries, which is very cheap to build, you get nice boost to population  *ok*

totally agree :)

most experienced "farmers" I have talked to absolutely agree on building granaries up to level 5 ASAP, it makes a big difference in the eco.

Btw, there is a really nice farmer's guide in the Bulgarian forum, I must have time to translate it and i am definitely trying it next era ;)


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: Hiske on November 07, 2007, 12:43:52 PM
 :o :o :o

why is farming so popular these days??? please explain!


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: k_mihai on November 07, 2007, 12:49:56 PM
hey, don`t u know the thrill of building farms once at each 2 days, the emotion of having lv 40 granaries, the countless experiences live wyile colonising the 10th province, the overwhelming self confidence provided by having lv 7 forts everywhere....


wow, i wrote such a long post, hmm...  :D


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: isolde on November 07, 2007, 12:53:50 PM
:o :o :o

why is farming so popular these days??? please explain!

Because, my dear Hiske, you can have 3 months of peaceful farming, quiet life, no wars, build up a huge economy and then in the last month build an enormous army and kill whoever you wish or rather whoever was dumb enough to leave their army. Because in 20 - 30 battles you can achieve the same military rank as the so called "warrior" and laugh at them from your elevated networth position. In other words, because it is the "easier" way to get what you want, cause you dont have to break your neck killing people every night, do army saves and they you can still go and brag that you are number 5 in networth and military. And last but not least cause the game allows it and until it is so, there will always be people who go the farmers way :)


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: tangle on November 07, 2007, 12:55:04 PM
hey, don`t u know the thrill of building farms once at each 2 days, the emotion of having lv 40 granaries, the countless experiences live wyile colonising the 10th province, the overwhelming self confidence provided by having lv 7 forts everywhere....


wow, i wrote such a long post, hmm...  :D

        *bear* good one  *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha*


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: isolde on November 07, 2007, 12:56:58 PM
hey, don`t u know the thrill of building farms once at each 2 days, the emotion of having lv 40 granaries, the countless experiences live wyile colonising the 10th province, the overwhelming self confidence provided by having lv 7 forts everywhere....


wow, i wrote such a long post, hmm...  :D

You are losing it, mihai, this in NO WAY qualifies as spam  *hmm*


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: Hiske on November 07, 2007, 12:58:09 PM
Because, my dear Hiske, you can have 3 months of peaceful farming, quiet life, no wars, build up a huge economy and then in the last month build an enormous army and kill whoever you wish or rather whoever was dumb enough to leave their army. Because in 20 - 30 battles you can achieve the same military rank as the so called "warrior" and laugh at them from your elevated networth position. In other words, because it is the "easier" way to get what you want, cause you dont have to break your neck killing people every night, do army saves and they you can still go and brag that you are number 5 in networth and military. And last but not least cause the game allows it and until it is so, there will always be people who go the farmers way :)

 :o but it's no fun!!!!


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: k_mihai on November 07, 2007, 12:59:28 PM
Quote
      *bear* good one  *hahaha* *hahaha* *hahaha*

thx

Quote
You are losing it, mihai, this in NO WAY qualifies as spam  *hmm*

 :D


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: isolde on November 07, 2007, 13:07:53 PM
:o but it's no fun!!!!

I agree :). I am afraid though there are people in IO who dont play for fun but for military or networth or alliance ranking or just cause someone killed their army last era so they must get their revenge now  *pardon*


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: Hiske on November 07, 2007, 13:18:44 PM
I agree :). I am afraid though there are people in IO who dont play for fun but for military or networth or alliance ranking or just cause someone killed their army last era so they must get their revenge now  *pardon*

hmmm... so you're saying that listening to John will bring me a victory over you? hmmm... interesting...


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: isolde on November 07, 2007, 14:03:23 PM
hmmm... so you're saying that listening to John will bring me a victory over you? hmmm... interesting...

nothing will give you victory over me  *evil*  except maybe, the other me  :-[


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: Q-bura on November 07, 2007, 17:10:39 PM
      do not build granaries  :o   whats wrong with you? medicine work with the amount of population you have, grain gives you 1 person per hour per lvl!! so look at it like this; medicine in the start do not work as well as granaries because you have few people. if you build granaries, which is very cheap to build, you get nice boost to population  *ok*

I agree, larger amount of people is born with high granaries in the beginning when population level is low then with medicine. But I can't see any reason why not research/build them paralely, and yes, trade is needed because of the same reason, larger amount of resources are traded better.


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: zepovinho on November 09, 2007, 15:34:46 PM
      do not build granaries  :o   whats wrong with you? medicine work with the amount of population you have, grain gives you 1 person per hour per lvl!! so look at it like this; medicine in the start do not work as well as granaries because you have few people. if you build granaries, which is very cheap to build, you get nice boost to population  *ok*

granarys after centraliza lvl2 and med too, the most important at the begginning is grow citizens and colonize a prov is very most important that granarys and medicine...and trade  *hahaha* *hahaha*


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: zepovinho on November 09, 2007, 15:36:58 PM
... and SUPER MEGA IMPORTANT university and arquitecture *cool*


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: Q-bura on November 09, 2007, 15:40:39 PM
granarys after centraliza lvl2 and med too, the most important at the begginning is grow citizens and colonize a prov is very most important that granarys and medicine...and trade  *hahaha* *hahaha*

Agree, but situation is a little bit different in 8months-realm, isn't it? So, granaries come before centralization at the very begining. I think  *pardon* Trade lvl1 is must IMHO....


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: Q-bura on November 09, 2007, 15:42:09 PM
... and SUPER MEGA IMPORTANT university and arquitecture *cool*

http://www4.imperiaonline.org/forums/int/index.php?topic=1864.msg14056#msg14056

 :)


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: zepovinho on November 09, 2007, 15:42:39 PM
@q-bura in realm 8 mounths is totally diferent *bear*


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: Q-bura on November 09, 2007, 15:44:13 PM
 *bear* For eco-style, I think that above-mentioned differences are crucial differences  :)

edit: I think (in longer realms) granaries are amongst imperatives before centralization lvl1, because with granaries lvl 7-8 combined with med 2-3 (of course  ;) ) population growth will boost you're production very well and university and architecture are quicker researched.  *ok*

edit v2.0: Economy machine must work flawlessly!  :)

edit n-th: This game is true diamond!  :o *bravo* *ok* *sos*


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: zepovinho on November 09, 2007, 15:46:42 PM
This advice is only good for realm 1-4.

Note: Use this as a guide only and it has not yet completed. This is very rough. I will refine it until it's perfect.
General hints: University lvl should always be one two two lvls above all research lvl.

Stage 1 for your first province.
1. Get University Lvl 3
2. Get meds lvl 2
2. Get architecture lvl 2
2. Get range attack 1.
3. Build lvl 3 archers barracks.
4. Research colonization.

University lvl 9-10

Get province 6.

Once u get two province, try to get depots lvl 3, everywhere, do not invest in granary yet as medicine is still cheaper than granary, when you reach your third or fourth province then you can start to build granaries. Meds and granary works well with one another. Granary lvl should be around 3-4 lvls ahead of medicine lvl.

I repeat, do not research trade lvl yet until wood price starts to rise, it's only worth it to sell stuff when wood price is above 0.57(minimum trade lvl 5) If you need gold, just set your workers to unemployed.


R9 Just restarted, I will update it accordingly because I can't remember what my mentor told me, but as the game progresses, I can do accordingly, I will update this in a few days time.




for me in realms 4 months:

Stage 1 for your first province.
1. Get University Lvl 2
2. Get range attack 1.
3. Build lvl 3 archers barracks.
4. Research colonization.
Stage 1 for your 2 province.
1. Get University Lvl 4
2. Research colonization.
Stage 1 for your 3 province.
1. Get University Lvl 5
2. Research colonization.

After the 3 prov:
arquitecture lvl3 / granarys lvl6 / bure. lvl 4 and medicine lvl 2

when you made farm lvl 8 research TRADE lvl1 because his necessary  *hahaha*


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: Q-bura on November 09, 2007, 15:53:55 PM
Let me me check what is going on in R9......


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: zepovinho on November 09, 2007, 15:56:47 PM
i never play in a 8 months realm :(


@q-bura  after a month you can put here the tactic to a 8 months realm :)


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: zepovinho on November 09, 2007, 16:00:34 PM
he will never win a battle  :D

i dont attack with light and heavy army... I *heart* Elite Army *evil*


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: Q-bura on November 09, 2007, 16:01:08 PM
i never play in a 8 months realm :(


@q-bura  after a month you can put here the tactic to a 8 moths realm :)

Oki, it is, in fact, based on your tactics, a little bit modified  *bear* I started in r5 then in r7  :-X I think I will be very "fat" in r9  *bear*


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: kingjohn on November 09, 2007, 16:12:13 PM


for me in realms 4 months:

Stage 1 for your first province.
1. Get University Lvl 2
2. Get range attack 1.
3. Build lvl 3 archers barracks.
4. Research colonization.
Stage 1 for your 2 province.
1. Get University Lvl 4
2. Research colonization.
Stage 1 for your 3 province.
1. Get University Lvl 5
2. Research colonization.

After the 3 prov:
arquitecture lvl3 / granarys lvl6 / bure. lvl 4 and medicine lvl 2

when you made farm lvl 8 research TRADE lvl1 because bis necessary  *hahaha*

Thank you IO King Zepo, I will intergrate it with my manual. Thanks!!


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: citral on November 15, 2007, 18:19:37 PM
Agree, but situation is a little bit different in 8months-realm, isn't it? So, granaries come before centralization at the very begining. I think  *pardon* Trade lvl1 is must IMHO....
I dont really agree with u sayibg, gran comes b4 centr/med. In the 8 month realms, centr is so expensive, that I save up recources, b4 I hit  50 net, to build centr 1. So I have 1 coloniosed P, when I hit 50 net, and can save my rec, in the depots. If u dont do that, big chance, u8 cant save up rec, cause some1 always will come for them. Then it will take maybe 1/2 weeks b4 u can start colonising ur 1st P!!


Title: Re: My economic manual to have a good economy.
Post by: tiger on November 16, 2007, 13:21:56 PM
i managed to get prov 2 in r9 without hiding under 50 points. And nobody atacked because high borders. Again few lvl of granary is must. i always research few lvl of granaries on the begining because they are so cheap and add few villagers per hour whole era. :) Lvl 1 granary pays itself in first day. :) i didnt calculated exactly. :) thats for 4 month eras. in 8 month i am playing first time but i took granaries on the begining and as i looked i have most villagers in the realm. :) even after loosing some army. :)