Imperia Online International

What's the best way to just ruin someone's empire. Here's my thoughts I'd like to get some brainstorming going on.

I'm trying to just destroy this one player,  his empire is about 200K and he has about 50K elites in each category. and he has about 200K pop in each province.  Here's what I have so far.

1. Pillage each province
2. Fortress siege each province
3. Wait till he rebuilds then repeat.


Now I assume I can only do this until he capitulates from me. But what else can I do to just ruin his day?

Thanks!

once he capitulates u really cant do much unless , declare war against his alliance.. [:-}
btw there is alwayz a way , ask ur friends also to attack him , if u want  *hihi* *hihi*

just say that the person is above your x5 range, so you can't attack him normally. but if in a war, you can even attack someone who is x10 points less then you right?

I understand the whole capitulate thing. I just want to make sure there's not a more effective way to destroy his world.  :rant: Plus he keeps on sending attacks my way so he couldn't capitulate from me within 48 hrs anyways.

Destroy his army first!

upgrade your military medicine, keep train army as much as you can then continuously destroy his army, when he did army save, burn all his provinces and pillage all his provinces   :evil4:
and if you want to totally destroy him, no need to wait till he rebuild his army.. just keep attacking..  *hihi*

Isn't burning his provinces and pillaging the same thing?  *sos*

On a side note, You guys are rough thanks for the strategy though.  I'll be sure not to fortress siege any of you any time soon.

 *gamer*

burning is for forts.
pillaging is for the population.

Basically, and it's especially true in v4 Realms against farmers, targetting the pop will destroy your economy by lowering your production capacity (in 168hrs, your pop will only slightly increase when necessary troop recruitments are factored in) and burning your forts, will not only take away ressources from you, but will freeze your economic and scienific developments, unless you pay a premium (rebuilding at least 1 fort)
As long as you got 1 fort, you can still do researches in that province, but you can't build anything else in the other provinces. If your development until now was unbalanced or not ready to wage all-out war against determined aggressors, then you are badly disadvantaged : what's the point of being able to produce lots of stones when you need to recruit troops ?

All in all, those continuous raids destroy your economy while your opponents only gets stronger, thus making the fight both depressing and more uneven ....

... but interesting  *rose*

I meant depressing and uneven ... for the victim, that is .... *evil*

"burning is for forts."

How do you burn someone's fort? Under Command Center > attack > i only see "pillage", "fortress siege" and "field battle"?

And correct me if I'm wrong but you have to attack with 11% of that province's population for the pillage to be successful?

When you attack a fort (siege attack) and that you are successful, then the fort will be in flames in the player's kingdom map. that's what I mean by fort burning.
When you do a pop pillage (killing between 11% and 20% of the population in the targeted province), you'll see tombstones in that same map.
And when you burn all forts and pop pillage all provinces at the same time, you do the super combo : "lighting the xmas tree"  *hihi* *hahaha* *hahaha*

Playing IO in its true form (the warrior's way) is not for the faint-hearted, it's a sadistic self-indulgence .... but man, that feels so good sometimes !!  :P


Have fun,

What's the best way to ensure that this happens? I guess you just have to pillage the province with alot of troops? Any special formula or percentage I should know to have an effective pillage?

Also can you pillage then have your troops return home and pillage again? Or does it matter since the effect last 168 hours anyways?

Basically what's stopping me from doing a fortress siege then continiously pillaging a province, like my tropps come back home and i send them right back out to the same province I just pillaged.

Only one pop pillage at a time can affect one province ... this means that unlike siege attacks, you can't send multiple attacks on the same province. But it also means, that the first player to launch a pop pillage attack on a province, forbids ALL other players to launch such an attack on that same province until the mission has been completed (but they can attack the other provinces).
The number of killed villagers is equal to the amount of soldiers sent .... therefore if you send an army whose total troops represent 15% of the targeted population WHEN the battle occurs, then you'll kill 15% of that population (siege weapons are not included, though ;)). If you send 30%, only 20% will be killed ...
Once a province has been pop pillaged, no matter by what percentage, NO ONE can pop pillage it again for the next 168hrs ... one exception : in v4, if you pop pillage a player whose Alliance you are officially at war with, the "protection" lasts only 84hrs.

if the enemy is at least a medium player, is almost impossible to destroy. at vest, you can slow him.

If you want to turn a player into a gold coin, kill his army first and foremost.  Beyond that, don't let him rebuild.  Siege every province.  When he produces resources or brings home gold, go take it.  He won't be able to hire soldiers and any gold he gets will be wasted rebuilding fortresses.  He'll get sick enough of you to quit, capitulate, or convince a powerful friend to take you out depending on the sort of player he is.  If none of these things happen, enjoy farming him at will the rest of the era.  :)

*tear* that's so beautiful,  you guys are the best!  *heart*

I can't wait to just smash this guy.  *gamer*

+ Karma for everyone.

What is the meaning of that?  *crazy*

it means that the game is too much economical centered for a player to be really destroyed, if he takes some precautions like army saves, move resources though the provinces, don`t leave res at home when log off, not to mention cowards favorite, capitulation. things like pillages, destroyed forts etc, only slow down a little

*hahaha* Right  *hahaha*
 *hihi*  I even think that you will write some sarcastic joke like: "how can medium player destroy another medium player completely?"  *hahaha*  *sos*  *sos*
 *bravo* good opinion  *bravo*

Well, some of us tried to destroy players, or spend a whole era in R1 intl, where everyone tried to destroy us (being pillaged all the time, all the forts down). Even a 4 to 1 alliances war can be won, with a good strategy and some luck (won as beating all 4 alliances). The weakest point for a player is somewhere in the last month, when if you are able to kill the army, recovery is almost impossible (but if that dude already has a high position in ranks, won`t be so effective). For the rest, there are solutions. When u are pillaged, invest in med and granaries, pillage back, ask for friendly pillages, kill the enemy`s army. For empty forts attacks, keep only the fort in the main province (boxed mountain or wf) at a high level, the rest low, high depots to move resources, and spend all resources when you log off. Compensate the loss of production by robbing other players, hitting gold mines or war income. When someone tries to kill the army, keep carto at a low or level, and do saves on targets situated at different distances, so the return pattern is difficult to predict (ie send the army so that it will arrive after 20 mins of ur log in time, 20 mins to have time to take bonus and move resources to the province where the army is based). To recover from army lost, have a reserve of soldiers under training, war income saved, raid for money, don`t mobilized soldiers until you have a big part of the army ready.

That`s only for a mixed strategy, who includes fighting in earlier stages, and excludes capitulation. Farmers can`t be destroyed, cause the growth based on game mechanics always outpace the losses by pillages etc. 

k_mihai makes plenty of accurate points.  But, if a player has a big army and then a group of players team up and hit his army repeatedly over one or two days, he is typically destroyed.  This is true, not because he can't rebuild, but because losing something that took weeks or months to build demoralizes most players and they will quit instead of trying to come back.  Even if he shows some heart and keeps playing, he won't be a threat again anytime soon. 

if that player knows how to do army saves, is unlikely that he will suffer a catastrophic loss. the groups of players will probably have misses after misses

 :hard:  :hard: WOOOOW  :hard:  :hard:
 :hmmm:  I see medium player with percision can make advance better then advance player.  :hmmm:
 *SCRATCH* or maybe I'm not good enough to be called advanced.  *hahaha*
 :hooray: Karma for you sir. :hooray:

In order to have a successful pillage is there an type of troop that does a better job then the other?

If he has 200K pop. I need to send 30% or 60,000 troops (eliets) to that province for a successful pillage. But is there an advantage to sending all spears, guardians etc.?

What's the ratio / percentage of population to troops needed to be sent?

you need to send army equivalent to more than 20% of his population from that province
And cavalry is a bit better for pillages because they travel faster, but pillaging only with cavalry is used when player is offline or he doesn't have any army. Usually, the army sent to pillage is the one that can defeat the defender's army (in case he wants to defend) *pardon*

Like the last post said, cavalry is the way to go as long as they won't get beat by the opposing army.  Watch out for players who have a lot of spears at home.  Cavalry travels twice the normal speed plus any upgrades you have made to your horses.  Compared to an attack with siege weapons, you can possibly get to an enemy 4x to 5x faster.

Well I just want to thank everyone here for the input. I recently crushed my foe and it was beautiful! I had about 50K (200K elites) troops in each category and 500 siege. Took about a week to build that up.  :hard: 

I first crushed his Army which was all in Province 8. Then I split up my army into 3 groups and pillaged all 6 of his provinces. Then when I was done with that I split my army up into 2 groups and sieged his castles 2 at a time.

End result... He ended up capitulating me and went on vacation.  *YAHOO*

Now If people will quit messing with me I can get back to farming. *gamer*

Sorry mate, but playing IO is a (almost) neverending fight for supremacy ...   *black_eye* *hahaha*

congrats on your victory *ok* :hooray:

Excellent work !  *bravo* *bravo*

did you felt that sick kind of joy making him quit the game?  *sos* i used to wait for those moments  *freak* felt sooooooo goooood  :evil3:

you mean a neverending farm for supremacy :D

are you talking about my recurrent nightmares ?  *UNDECIDED* *hahaha*

Lol, nice work Silverdot!  Talk about killing a guy.  We've debated on whether total destruction was possible.  That's about as close as you can get.  Goodness.  You beat him up, slept with his wife, spanked his kids, and then kicked his dog on the way out.   *black_eye*

Look look I have a better mix with words.  *xxx*  *crazy*
Spanked him up, kicked his wife, beat his kids and slept his dog.
 *hahaha*  *hahaha*  *hahaha*  *hahaha*