Imperia Online International

to maintain my low point strategy , what do you suggest as my maximum population on my surrounding provinces before i have my level 7 fort?

is in the strategy. i played with it last era in r7

u need 5 provinces, the 2nd one being the boxed mountain, or mountain with forest. all ur other provinces should have capped the population around 20 k villagers. their function is to give u the walled province advantage (-20 morale for the attacker), recruiting grounds for units, but they are not ur economy. Ur economy are ur neighbors, and the mountain provinces (after u got the lv 7 fort, mostly)

uneed to have big depots, maximum 4 k networth and to farm ur neighbors until u reach the 4 + millions GE necessary for a lv 7 fort. 

im trying to do this strategy now in realm 2, i already have my second province with archers inside with less than 100 points. its great.

About my question, you know that putting high level of farm makes your points level up too. Thats why im asking, I can make so much population after i reach my level 7 fort, but i want to prove if i really can make level 7 fort with less than 10k. (im trying to make this happen in shorter time unlike you have stated)

Im following all the instruction above including the armies and researches.

stop ur farms at level 9, in all provinces, except the mountain boxed one. otherwise, u will grow too much, and lose the low point protection. that`s true also for granaries.

the logic of growth in IO now is population dependent, which means, the more people u have, the more u will grow. that`s why, in low point, who is an anti-growth strategy, population needs to be limited.

tnx for the reply.

u`re welcome

Realm 25: if centrelization cost is increased to 30k wood, 2k iron, 20k stone, and 58k gold is this strategy useless? or can it be modified?

That's a good question... I know that in GI the defenses are still good enough to warrant it, but I think the (initial) higher costs of Centralization break a lot of the merit of this strategy  *hmm*

it`s still possible http://www4.imperiaonline.org/forums/int/index.php?topic=2529.0

What are good ways to reduce points at little cost...apart from disbanding troops?

You can only reduce points by disbanding troops :P

nice strategy ... i should use this in the  future one time  *bravo*

Gah...I'm not quite ready to hit that 15000 watershed just yet.

Oh well...no choice now.

 :D LOL, I did a much better strategy accidentally *pardon*, I thought I would never again play imperia,  left and i donnow how much time i left and came back, i had 1 mil, wood and 200000 iron  *YAHOO* *YAHOO* *YAHOO*

But you had to have had low points & a high fort or ppl would have taken that, right?

If I may make a suggestion about the research for a LPS, the uni and arch levels do not necessarily have to stay at 5 as you get higher and higher fort levels.

When you begin to construct, or think about constructing, level 5+ fortresses, first calculate how much building one level of uni and one level of arc will raise your points by, and then calculate how much slack that'll cut for your points through arch lowering the cost of the next fort.

I found that building 8 lvls of uni and arch is still making the exchange of points favourable to the player building the research against players just building the fort at 5&5, not to mention how much time that'll save and resources on other buildings. :)

Just another thought, hope it helps,

Foundation

When you play low point strategy, resources aren't a big problem, you can take them attacking gold mines :P

What I meant is that it actually pushes your points down further. Less resources spent = lower points.

Foundation

No...it doesn't matter, a fort 7 still brings the same points (or at least this is what I know) ???

radooo is right here

Right... networth points for buildings are calculated with the base price.

this is correct you get points based on base price not the price after the bonuses from from uni or arch :-X

What! You're serious!..... :(

Foundation

so your going to tell me that by not having uni or arch im just gonna get like 1 point even though i got level 5 granary level 7 woodd, iron, stone mines. and level 5 barracks etc etc. i believe almost all buildings give you points.

no, we are not

not you, whoever said that. *bear* hope i could demolish uni and arch to have 1 point

I am assuming that Bureaucracy 4 should also be purchased ASAP after getting the 2nd Province in place?

yes

There is no way to destroy a building once it is Build, correct?

The only way to move Population is to build Military units and then Disband them?

When disbanding do you get any Resources back?  Something I saw indicated that maybe you got half?

yes

yes

yes, u get 50% back
 :)

Excellent.  Having just done this though it appears that the Points from Soldiers that you Disband (or at least Colonize with...) do not go away?   :o

I was at 29 Points, Build 400 more Archers and went up to 56.  I colonized my 2nd Province and the Points are still up.. Resources are all hidden in teh Depots, but I am now over 50 points and not much in the way of an Army.  Did I bif something up?

they don`t disappear :) or, if you want you lose the amount of points when you colonize, then get it back when you have the province.

normal disbanding reduce your points, ofc               

Ouch.  So I am over 50 points with no going back.  Now I understand why the strategy says to wait three weeks.  Doh!

try to build 800 spears + 200 archers as fast as you can, then attack neighbors.

this is one of the weak spots of the strategy, when one jumps to the second province, because 6-8h the resources are unprotected and one must be lucky until the 2nd province can be colonized. try to keep (in the future) the points at 20.

I am playing with low point strategy for the first time and my biggest problem so far is that Miltary academy lvl 5 can not be researched because centralization 5 must be researched first.

yes, i know, is not good. i was forced to use only 4 attack groups when i played low points

hehe...i really know that (from last era) :D...and the funny thing is that you need carto 1 for centralization 5 :D...but you will adapt with these small problems :P

I saw that Cartography is needed, I will try to keep it at 0, so I don't press a button by mistake.

...and it is more difficult to play with carto 0, my army is so slow carrying so much gold every time :D

but is so nice to play with carto 0 :D

not if you are in a corner :D


andy, you can adapt the strategy, even build centr 5 if you want

I have played low point strategy five eras in a row and its the suitable strategy for my life stile.  I think that people should choose their strategy based on their life style and how much time they can spend behind computer. I have  played 16 hours in a day 4 months and it ruined my summer . :(

 *rose*

any suggestions on what to do after you've gotten your lvl 7 fort? do you abandon the low point strategy then? or still stop (almost) all research but keep ordering soldiers? hope you can give some advice. thanks :)

I am new.
Low point strategy sound like an interesting strategy.
I understand that if I am below 50 points, I got newbies protection.
If I am above 50 points, anybody can attack my province, including those have 1000 points and above?

nope.

only people in x2 (double or half your points) without penalties

people in x5 with some penalties

well if it gets boring you can always hire some troops and go crazy.

Hmm.. the Low Point model posted in the forum talks about "Hiding resources in Depots" Do these Depots refer to Supply Depots for moving resources, or Imperial Reserves in each individual province? Please do clarify, im a little confused..

The strategy was made before the creation of Imperial Reserves. Back in those days (and still in older version realms), the supply depots would not automatically unload until you had 15,000 points. That means you could use them to hide resources.

With the advent of Imperial Reserves, the strategy needs to be adapted to utilize these, instead.

you can store the resources on fort if you are careful :D

but is a strat for 4 realms. the issue is the price of centralization, cause if you play like merry said, you`ll end up as a big farmer with almost the highest points in the realm  *freak*

I have just sent my army to attack another player which is in x2. But I started a research immediately after that and I found that this player is no longer in x2 range. Any penalties in this case?

no

Thanks Radooo!

I am about to colonize another province.
If I colonize province 3, 7, 9, 13, then my enemy can't attack province 8. Is that true?

it's not true , he can attack province 8 but he will lose 20 moral

I don't get it. How did colonization help in protecting Province 8?
If to colonize, which province shall I colonize?

I am currently playing in Realm 7. Centralization is very expensive. Is it still worthwhile to colonize surrounding provinces?

Like makavelis said, if you colonize province 3,7,9,13 then anyone who attacks province 8 will start the attack with 20 less morale, so it gives "protection" to province 8.

If I only colonize the second province, is there any "protection"?

Is there any difference if I colonize province 1 or province 3?

no

Hi, I´m playing LPS in three realms.
In the V2 one, it goes quite well; but in both with V4 I feel like I´m getting to a dead end...
The price of centralization in V4 is too high and my points will explode...has anybody found a solution for that issue? :s
Thanks in advance.


PD:Excuse my english.  :-[

no man..v4 is definitely not for LPS for all era..you certain can "hide" in range...but due to 5x rule... *hihi* must get very carefull at networthexplosion.

Well...I supposed that, but I thought there would be a way to sort that obstacle...


Perhaps I should try two different "hybrid" strategies in both V4 realms...any idea beyond non-boxed fort 5 ?

Colonize one province at a time and grow progressively?
Develope higher levels of fort, fortification and garrison? I mean...concentrate in defense and then explode?

BTW...is it foolish to think that V4 was conceived to avoid LPS? Cos' if that wasn´t the goal, at least it seems as if it was...

Greetings.

think about 5x range... *freak* *xxx*
make a quick calculation..and see the range of players that can atack u..
youll get eaten alive..they get daily honour.. *freak*